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'Beast of Omaha' weeps as he recalls slaughter of thousands on beach
Scotsman ^ | 6/6/04 | Murdo MacLeod

Posted on 06/11/2007 12:17:14 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: taxcontrol
Very well said!

prisoner6

41 posted on 06/11/2007 3:20:00 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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To: PAR35

Also...the British did not land at Omaha Beach.

It was a much more deadly environment than any other landing site.


42 posted on 06/11/2007 3:20:55 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: PAR35

Thank you.


43 posted on 06/11/2007 3:24:25 AM PDT by DB
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To: Strategerist
I didn’t know that.

I can’t imagine the noise of being in front and below those guns being fired.

A truly horrible day.

44 posted on 06/11/2007 3:28:43 AM PDT by DB
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To: TheLooseThread

He estimated 1,000 to 2,000 himself. Also, targets were tightly packed as in the comment about emptying the landing craft single handed.


45 posted on 06/11/2007 3:38:00 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: taxcontrol

Yes indeed. He did his duty.


46 posted on 06/11/2007 3:42:42 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: saganite
I would still look at this with extreme skepticism. It parallels but does not match what I know of the landing. This is too much like a John Kerry war story.

I'd bet that no American ever heard of the "Beast of Omaha".

47 posted on 06/11/2007 3:55:52 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: LibWhacker

The Americans lost 3000 men to dislodge one German soldier from a strategic bunker, and it was a victory for the Americans. This is the nature of war.

It’s not always about the body count.


48 posted on 06/11/2007 4:05:00 AM PDT by jebeier (Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity. But is stupidity adequate?)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

I’m sure there were German machine gunners in WWI who killed and wounded as many or more than this man. A machine gun is an incredibly efficient killing machine.


49 posted on 06/11/2007 4:05:46 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: LibWhacker

Path of Forgiveness

A Long Way back to Omaha Beach

Author: Alexander Czogalla

Length: 54'

June 6, 1944 on D-Day: the allies stormed the beaches at Normandy, gaining a tenuous foothold on the shores of France. On a stretch of shoreline the Americans had code-named Omaha Beach, the allied forces were subjected to one of the bloodiest battles of World War Two.

For seven hours German private Heinrich Severloh fired at the oncoming invaders, mercilessly, unceasingly, like a robot. Severloh, then 21 years old, was credited with killing more enemy troops than any other Wehrmacht soldier. The horrifying estimate is anywhere from two thousand to two thousand five hundred men, in a single day. A simple man transformed into a murdering beast. Like a madman, he fired his machine gun killing soldiers that, for him, have no names or faces.

Except for one. David, then 19, a GI from Cleveland, Ohio, survived the massacre with severe injuries. And then a miracle happened. Two men who were bitter enemies, met briefly, then went their separate ways. They exchanged letters, became friends. And now, the former enemies meet again.

year of production: 2004

 
 
 David Silva and Hein Severloh                          Spiegel TV

50 posted on 06/11/2007 4:06:08 AM PDT by wolficatZ ("..a creature from the prehistoric past. The terrible, fearsome, Croco-Stimpy! ")
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To: wolficatZ
Severloh, then 21 years old, was credited with killing more enemy troops than any other Wehrmacht soldier. The horrifying estimate is anywhere from two thousand to two thousand five hundred men, in a single day.

I sounds better if they would round it off to, say, 10,000. And as accurate.

51 posted on 06/11/2007 4:12:53 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: DB
That is a complicated question. The allies didn't really have any "heavy" armor. The Sherman was modified to 'swim". From Wiki:

"DD tanks (for Duplex Drive) were amphibious swimming tanks developed during the Second World War. The phrase is mostly used for the M4 Sherman medium tanks used by the Allies in the opening phases of the D-Day landings in 1944. The swimming tracked LVTs had already been used in the 1942-43 Solomons campaign in the Pacific, swimming 2 1/2 ton trucks in the 1943 invasion of Sicily, swimming Ford jeeps appeared in 1944, and the Soviets even developed swimming tankettes in the 1930s --but swimming medium tanks presented their own design problems. The swimming tank idea arose when it was realised that the first waves of infantry that reached an invasion beach would be acutely vulnerable without the support of tanks. But if landing craft were used to carry those tanks, they themselves would be vulnerable to German heavy guns. The loss of too many landing craft would slow the movement of reinforcements from ships offshore and the invasion beaches would be choked with disabled and sunken landing craft. By giving tanks the ability to float, they could be launched from landing craft several miles from the shore and make their own way onto the beach. The DD tanks were one of the many specialised assault vehicles, collectively known as Hobart's Funnies, derived to support the beach landings. All were extensively used by the British and Canadians, but the DD were the only ones adopted by the American forces. It has been speculated that if the DD tanks were better used, or if some of the other vehicles had been used, that American losses on the beaches of Normandy, particularly Omaha beach, would have been far less."

A large number of the DD'd were sunk trying to get to the beach. The Sherman could not take out a Panther or a Tiger 1 in a heads up shoot out. Typically 2-3 Sherman were lost killing every German heavy tank. There is tons of stuff around about this. history channel, wiki etc.

52 posted on 06/11/2007 4:21:34 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Reagan never called me a "bigot".)
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To: DB

The beach soil and rocks were way too soft for armor. The Sherman tanks that did land quickly got stuck and became death traps for their crews.


53 posted on 06/11/2007 4:24:07 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: wolficatZ
It's heartening to see that.

Maybe western civilization isn't going off the rails after all.

54 posted on 06/11/2007 4:25:31 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Spktyr

Nice pic, but it’s at Utah, I believe.


55 posted on 06/11/2007 4:25:34 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: namsman

WWII Ping!


56 posted on 06/11/2007 4:28:38 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: taxcontrol

Amen. Let’s hope that he and all involved find peace.


57 posted on 06/11/2007 4:34:03 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: LibWhacker

Incredible. One single person accounting for so many casualties.


58 posted on 06/11/2007 4:39:05 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: LibWhacker
For a great read on that day from ground level....

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/196011/omaha

59 posted on 06/11/2007 4:39:23 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: LibWhacker
A little reality check, more Americans died on 911 than at Normandy...

From the Brits' D-Day Museum site:

"The breakdown of US casualties was 1465 dead, 3184 wounded, 1928 missing and 26 captured. Of the total US figure, 2499 casualties were from the US airborne troops (238 of them being deaths). The casualties at Utah Beach were relatively light: 197, including 60 missing. However, the US 1st and 29th Divisions together suffered around 2000 casualties at Omaha Beach."

There was a total of @ 2000 casualties on Omaha. This includes wounded. This guy would have had to be responsible for every single US KIA and even that number wouldn't come close to what is claimed in this article.

60 posted on 06/11/2007 4:44:53 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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