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14 U.S. soldiers die in Iraq in 3 days
AP News ^ | 06/03/2007 | KIM GAMEL

Posted on 06/03/2007 2:46:59 PM PDT by HitmanLV

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To: Sleeping Beauty
At least Bush is doing about as well as Teddy Roosevelt, the Rough Rider did in the Philippine War.
61 posted on 06/03/2007 6:35:08 PM PDT by Griddlee
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To: Libloather
Get a grip on the facts. Over 45,000 Americans die from automobile accidents - every year.

That's very interesting.

You said that an American in Baghdad is safer than in Philadelphia. That's just nuts, no matter how many people are killed in Texas or whatever you're trying to say here.
62 posted on 06/03/2007 6:53:00 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: ga medic
I dont understand what these two things have to do with each other.

And you're the one lecturing on statistics?

63 posted on 06/03/2007 7:25:21 PM PDT by Libloather (That's just what I need - some two-bit, washed up, loser politician giving me weather forecasts...)
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To: Mr. Know It All
You said that an American in Baghdad is safer than in Philadelphia. That's just nuts, no matter how many people are killed in Texas or whatever you're trying to say here.

Do you have any evidence to dispute my claim? Otherwise, "Mr. Know It All", you can shove it where the global warming don't shine...

64 posted on 06/03/2007 7:30:23 PM PDT by Libloather (That's just what I need - some two-bit, washed up, loser politician giving me weather forecasts...)
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To: Chgogal

General Petraeus says we killed 2,500 Al Qaeda terrorists from mid-February to mid-May.


We suffered 300 dead during that time period. Al Qaeda will take that ratio anyday. 8:1 means we lose. We need 1000 to 1.


65 posted on 06/03/2007 8:00:08 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC
That was just Al Qaeda.
66 posted on 06/03/2007 8:41:47 PM PDT by Chgogal (Vote Al Qaeda. Vote Democrat.)
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To: Libloather

So, if you were given the option of moving to Philly or Baghdad, I’m sure you would move to Baghdad.


67 posted on 06/03/2007 9:35:58 PM PDT by MC Miker G
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To: MC Miker G
So, if you were given the option of moving to Philly or Baghdad, I’m sure you would move to Baghdad.

Baghdad crime compared to Philly? Baghdad wins - for now...

68 posted on 06/03/2007 9:44:58 PM PDT by Libloather (That's just what I need - some two-bit, washed up, loser politician giving me weather forecasts...)
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To: HitmanLV

A terrible loss. But consider that on Tarawa, we lost a 13-man Marine squad to a Japanese pillbox in MINUTES! Less the talk about days and losses and more the talk about motives for the struggle we are waging in Iraq. A struggle that I, for one, feel that we can and must prevail in.


69 posted on 06/03/2007 10:13:15 PM PDT by tanuki (u)
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To: Libloather

Not lecturing anyone. But, just so you know, these two statistics you cited are completely random. They are not comparable in any meaningful way.


70 posted on 06/04/2007 11:34:20 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: StoneWall Brigade

I understand your point, but I don’t think it makes the deaths of these 14 fine young soldiers any less devastating. They were good men, who gave their lives for our country. They had friends and families who will miss them terribly. They are important. Just because the leftists use the information to deplete support for this war, doesn’t mean that we should minimize the tragedy. We should all feel sadness at the loss of such upstanding young men/women.


71 posted on 06/04/2007 11:40:26 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: Chgogal
I really wish the Mods would forbid AP posts.

On radio network news this morning, they actually had a straight up piece on President Bush's itinerary for the next few days. It did not include a single BUT.... However, I wasn't surprised when it was followed by news of the loss of these 14 servicemen. Every loss of life is a tragedy for their loved ones, but there is a WAR going on. I should never listen to DBM news broadcasts.

72 posted on 06/04/2007 11:46:25 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: HitmanLV

Its going to get much worse between now and September. The troops are almost in place for the ‘surge’.

They didn’t send them to stand around, folks.

This is the moment we win or lose Iraq. Right now.

We’ll know come Labor Day.


73 posted on 06/04/2007 11:56:06 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Libloather
Do you have any evidence to dispute my claim [that Baghdad is safer than Philadelphia]?

There is so much evidence to dispute your claim that I'm wondering what the point of compiling it would be — you'll just deny it or something. Instead, I'll just reference post #67 in this very thread where you admit that your claim is false.

Are you just being a troll?
74 posted on 06/04/2007 2:56:33 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: Badeye
They didn’t send them to stand around, folks.

Actually its much worse than that, they sent them in to be sitting ducks, in outposts all over the city, surrounded by the enemy, waiting to be shot at. Today a General said................
Brig. Gen. Vincent K. Brooks, who commands the First Cavalry Division, which has responsibility for Baghdad, acknowledged that the operation “is at a difficult point right now, to be sure.”

Brooks, in an interview with The Times, pinned some of the blame on Iraq police and army units, who had been expected to assume some of the basic security tasks. He said the Iraqis had not provided all the forces promised, and in some cases have performed badly.

One senior military officer called the U.S. assumption that basic security could be established in Baghdad by this summer “way too optimistic.”

Citing an internal U.S. military assessment completed in late May, the N Y Times said American and Iraqi forces are able to “protect the population” and “maintain physical influence” over less than one-third of the capital’s 457 neighborhoods.

In the remaining parts of Baghdad, efforts to root out insurgents had either not begun or still faced “resistance.”

Americans began to move into Combat Outposts (COPs) or Joint Security Stations (JSS) starting in February 2007 (BIII, Page 8). The number of JSSs alone has steadily increased from 10 JSSs in February 2007 to 65 as of 23 May, and more will be established in the coming months. In short, our troops have moved and continue to move permanently into the neighborhoods in which they are work. They have increased their visibility, activity, and interaction with the population, while concurrently increasing their contact with the bad guys.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/06/why_the_surge_is_working_yet_m.html

For every 10 we kill, Iran will send in 20 more. But President Bush still is afraid of Iran, WHY!!

This Surge strategy is still choked with Vietnamesque rules of engagement or worse. Handcuffed with worse than Nam political ignorance that refuses to attack the enemy in its sanctuaries of Syria and Iran.

The only surge will be and currently is ... a surge in the number of our dead troops, a commodity that we should not be so ready to part with.

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75 posted on 06/04/2007 7:44:27 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC

While I appreciate your point of view, I don’t subscribe to the theory about it being another ‘Vietnam’. Too me, its not a valid comparision at all.


76 posted on 06/05/2007 5:58:39 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Libloather

That just may be the dumbest thing that I’ve ever read on FR...
SAFER????? i don’t think so.


77 posted on 06/07/2007 9:37:26 AM PDT by ruschpa
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