We don't even know how many are here. Estimates range from 11 to 20 million. I am sure the census figures don't capture all those who are really here. Once their status is legalized, they will be able to bring in their wives, children and one set of parents under the current bill. Chain migration rules will be in effect over the next decade tripling the current legal immigration of 1 million. When all is said and done, the nuber will be larger than 17 million.
And once they have a legalized status, they will become entitled to many of the same benefits accorded permanent residents and citizens.
So this is another example of the demagoguery being thrown around by the Ultras that complete guts their credibility on this issue. Less emotional demagoguery and more rational reasoning debate please.
Ultras? We have added 53 million to our population since 1990, 21 million since 2000. 3/4 of that increase can be attributed to immigration, legal and illegal. The Census Bureau projects that we will increase our population by 63 million in the next 23 years or the equivalent of the current population of the UK. If this bill goes through, those projections will increase significantly.
Hypocritical for “Conservatives” to object to the sorts of demagogic debate tactics the Left routinely uses, then turn right around and adopt the same taticics when it suits their political dogmas.
Demagogy is still demagoguery even when it comes from those the “correct” ideological affiliation.
And as for the term"Ultra" it short hand for Ultra Conservatives, or 100%ers or Purists or what ever term you ll want to apply to the people who are offering up these sorts of arguments.
To these people ONLY 100% of ONLY what they want is acceptable. Anything less is "treason". So if people DON'T like the term they can convince me they aren't 100%ers. So far I haven't see much that convinces me there is much rationality on the Antis sides. You were in Govt 36 years, you know full well the world doesn't work in these sorts of 100% utopia ways!
So what, if anything, are the Ultras willing to compromise on in order to get some serious border enforcement passed? So far everything I have read around here the answer is NOTHING. Very well make peace with the fact then that NOTHING is what you will get. Any in 2012 don't expect anyone to take your concerns about "Border Security" too seriously.
So sad for you all there are not enough of you 100%ers to elect either a President or a Congress who will pass your fantasy legislate that will magically turn the clock back to 1952 for you.