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To: AuntB; rodguy911
Do you realize if this AMNESTY happens we are in effect creating the equivilent of adding over 17 more states to this country?

No it doesn't since the Illegals, what ever today's magic number of them is, are all ready here and would not be added to the population. They are all ready part of it. So this is another example of the demagoguery being thrown around by the Ultras that complete guts their credibility on this issue. Less emotional demagoguery and more rational reasoning debate please.

640 posted on 06/03/2007 11:32:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: MNJohnnie
The thing is though MNJ just because they are here doesn't mean we should roll over an accept that 20 million mistakes happened and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.

I think there are things we can do about it.

Secure the border and round them up.

Even if it takes years to process them all and send the illegals back it sets forth a new immigration policy.

There is no reason any employer should be allowed to employ illegals,if they do it should be stopped.

One based on the current law of the land, for the country for the future of the country instead of making the same old mistakes over and over and then compounding them.

647 posted on 06/03/2007 11:40:10 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: MNJohnnie
No it doesn't since the Illegals, what ever today's magic number of them is, are all ready here and would not be added to the population. They are all ready part of it.

We don't even know how many are here. Estimates range from 11 to 20 million. I am sure the census figures don't capture all those who are really here. Once their status is legalized, they will be able to bring in their wives, children and one set of parents under the current bill. Chain migration rules will be in effect over the next decade tripling the current legal immigration of 1 million. When all is said and done, the nuber will be larger than 17 million.

And once they have a legalized status, they will become entitled to many of the same benefits accorded permanent residents and citizens.

So this is another example of the demagoguery being thrown around by the Ultras that complete guts their credibility on this issue. Less emotional demagoguery and more rational reasoning debate please.

Ultras? We have added 53 million to our population since 1990, 21 million since 2000. 3/4 of that increase can be attributed to immigration, legal and illegal. The Census Bureau projects that we will increase our population by 63 million in the next 23 years or the equivalent of the current population of the UK. If this bill goes through, those projections will increase significantly.

Projected population US

656 posted on 06/03/2007 11:52:40 AM PDT by kabar
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