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To: MNJohnnie
The more I read and talk with other small business owners like my self the more I learn that the primary attraction of the illegal workers rather than "there is just no one else" is simply price and little else.

There are few business owners that can not find a way to cure their labor needs without the aid of low priced workers. And ironically it may not even cost them more in the long run!

For example the age old argument of "who will pick the tomatoes, apples, lettuce etc." is largely dispelled by agriculture buying cheap illegal help instead of more expense yet extremely efficient machinery which does the jobs of hunders of workers but has a relative costly outlay initially.

Today's emphasis is always on "how much money can I make today" not in ten years so we wind up with a bunch of illegals instead of hi-tech machinery.

The const. industry is another openly crying the blues about how they "can"t find carpenters, laborers etc. Once again that argument is likely more about what they are willing to pay so they can make that extra ten grand per house.

But is that any excuse for violating federal law by hiring illegals so they can have an extra ten grand per house---I think not.

The fact that they can hire illegal carpenters for $8-$10 bucks an hour cheaper than locals is no excuse to do so,it still subverts US law.

Hotels, motels, restaurants, hospitality workers are often illegals as well. One problem those employers often encounter is the damage they often do far exceeds the few bucks that mgmt. saves.

I know from personal experience from first hand stories I have been told by those hiring third worlders instead of locals just how much damage they do to cleaning equip. sheets, bedding, towels, equipment, pools, dishwashers you name it if it can be scrwed up someone who doesn't speak a world of English has the talent to screw it up. Not to mention their interaction with guests or customers.

Those are just three examples from three industries about how the "desperate need" for illegals is way overstated, asserted and really no excuse at all for hiring illegals. And in many case more expensive in the long run.

517 posted on 06/03/2007 9:41:11 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911
The thousands of {what I assume are} illegals I have come in contact with are excellent workers. They show-up early, work hard, are not unwilling to stay late and seem very thankful for the work.

And as an extra-added-bonus because they’re here illegally the employers are, for the most part, bullet-proof when they need to or just want to fire them!

535 posted on 06/03/2007 9:52:17 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: rodguy911; MNJohnnie
There are few business owners that can not find a way to cure their labor needs without the aid of low priced workers. And ironically it may not even cost them more in the long run!

For example the age old argument of "who will pick the tomatoes, apples, lettuce etc." is largely dispelled by agriculture buying cheap illegal help instead of more expense yet extremely efficient machinery which does the jobs of hundreds of workers but has a relative costly outlay initially.

Today's emphasis is always on "how much money can I make today" not in ten years so we wind up with a bunch of illegals instead of hi-tech machinery.

The old argument of "who will pick the tomatoes, apples, lettuce etc." is simply the twenty-first century version of the "who will pick the cotton" argument of slave-owners 150 years ago. Let's pray we don't have to endure a similar resolution of the issue this time...

649 posted on 06/03/2007 11:43:36 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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