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A Way Better Immigration Proposal (Vanity)
self | 6/2/07 | self

Posted on 06/02/2007 6:00:07 AM PDT by alex

1. Allow Mexican nationals to travel and to work in the US on the same basis Canadians do: show your Mexican passport on the border to travel and if there is a job offer work visa should be granted unconditionally.

2. Grant same work visas to all non-Mexican illegals who are employed in the country on 12/31/07 as on-time amnesty event.

3. As a condition for (1) have agreement with Mexico (a) to accept all deportees from the US, (b) to maintain existing strict citizenship and immigration requirements, (c) to guard its borders.

4. Enforce existing rule of no entitlements for immigrants.

5. Enforce deportation of remaining illegals.


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And this is it, folks. Simple is beautiful.
1 posted on 06/02/2007 6:00:08 AM PDT by alex
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To: alex

And why would that be “better”?


2 posted on 06/02/2007 6:07:12 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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6. Mexico to supply US SUV owners with one barrel of crude oil per day per Mexican citizen living in the US.

Now you're talkin'

3 posted on 06/02/2007 6:07:55 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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How about we build a really big wall, and seal the boarder.

Then we can start rounding up the illegals and send them home.

Then we can enforce the EXISTING laws.

No new legislation needed.

Howzat?

4 posted on 06/02/2007 6:14:18 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: alex

There is nothing “better” about that.

Enforce existing LAWS by:

1. Go into public schools and requiring citizenship by parents.

2. Require proof of citizenship for renting, or owning property. If no proof exists for ownership then give them 30 days to sell it and leave or auction it off and deduct the cost of deportation from the proceeds.

3. Fine an employer 25K or 50K per illegal hired and deport them.

4. Remove the law of being “born” here and citizenship. Deport the entire family.

5. AS they are deported, like any other criminal, take a DNA sample, picture and put them in a federal criminal database.

6. NO, aboslutely NO benefits to illegals wihtout proof of citizenship.

They’ll leave on their own. There will be NO incentive to stay.

There is NO NEED to reward criminals, those the break the law with the very thing they want - citizenship.

Enforce EXISTING LAWS NOW, before we wind up like a third world country speaking Spanish.


5 posted on 06/02/2007 6:18:00 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: alex
There is nothing “better” about that.

Enforce existing LAWS by:

1. Go into public schools and requiring citizenship by parents.

2. Require proof of citizenship for renting, or owning property. If no proof exists for ownership then give them 30 days to sell it and leave or auction it off and deduct the cost of deportation from the proceeds.

3. Fine an employer 25K or 50K per illegal hired and deport them.

4. Remove the law of being “born” here and citizenship. Deport the entire family.

5. AS they are deported, like any other criminal, take a DNA sample, picture and put them in a federal criminal database.

6. NO, absolutely NO benefits to illegals without proof of citizenship.

They’ll leave on their own. There will be NO incentive to stay.

There is NO NEED to reward criminals, those the break the law with the very thing they want - citizenship.

Enforce EXISTING LAWS NOW, before we wind up like a third world country speaking Spanish.

One more thing have a fence and a HUGE border patrol. Shoot on sight of anyone trying to cross over or under the fence bordering Mexico and Canada.

6 posted on 06/02/2007 6:19:14 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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Enforce existing LAWS by:

Yes, but there is no way that is going to happen unless our politicians and government officials have the will to do it. In fact, they seem to have the opposite inclination.

Unfortunately, I cannot tell you how that might be accomplished without breaking the posting rules of Free Republic. Maybe I should just post a link:

Hannity & Colmes Guest Says Military Coup "May Be The Only Thing That Can Save This Country"

7 posted on 06/02/2007 6:58:22 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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You people are dreaming. Actually Alex, your proposal ain’t bad, but I’ll bet anyone 1000 dollars that this country will never, EVER, enforce these laws with any kind of mass deportation. It simply will not be done, EVER. Any kind of remedy, no matter how correct, that includes this provision will NEVER, EVER be implemented. So we need something that will WORK, given the realities we face. We have to stop allowing the Perfect to be the enemy of the Good.


8 posted on 06/02/2007 7:25:06 AM PDT by Paradox (In the final analysis, its mostly a team sport, Principles cast off like yesterdays free agents.)
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See also:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1843636/posts

Re. Thomas Sowell’s comments on a military coup.


9 posted on 06/02/2007 7:32:39 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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Just as ILLEGALS PROTEST, so must Americans.

There is NO reason to put up with this stuff.

Flood you self representing representatives THAT message.

Tell them you will NOT vote for them again and vote in others that WILL represent you.

If you don’t do this, we will become a third world country where there is NO RESPECT for reasonable laws - become a citizen the LEGAL way.

10 posted on 06/02/2007 7:38:25 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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Some of us don’t want our country over run by terrorists and under paid people who refuse to speak out language. Our entire culture will turn into something like Brazil.

Hannity is nothing more than an empty headed, apologetic buffoon.

11 posted on 06/02/2007 7:40:21 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

FR was always a place of down to Earth realists and now we have a whole bunch of Really Great Dreamers - what a change.


12 posted on 06/02/2007 7:52:12 AM PDT by alex
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[Yes, but there is no way that is going to happen unless our politicians and government officials have the will to do it.]

In order for this to happen somebody has to vote for said politicians.

13 posted on 06/02/2007 7:54:02 AM PDT by alex
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And this is it, folks. Simple is beautiful.

To a Dung beetle a pile of Dung is beautiful. So the beetle would like your pile.

Who pays their hospital bills and what do you do about the thousands of twelve year old dropping their kids everywhere. Who pays to educate their kids. Etc, etc.

14 posted on 06/02/2007 7:58:18 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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[And why would that be “better”?]

1. It just accepts and improves the status quo (which is quite satisfactory in my view) without any far reaching changes because it is Mexican-nationals-only thing and 1/3 of able bodied Mexicans is already here).

2. It does not force Mexicans down the road to the citizenship unless those that explicitly want it.

3. It is way-way-way less disruptive than either proposed reform or forced deportation of 12 mln (armed) people or having 12 mln illegals in the country.


15 posted on 06/02/2007 8:03:38 AM PDT by alex
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To: alex

Simple is simple.


16 posted on 06/02/2007 8:04:07 AM PDT by kabar
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To: alex
“FR was always a place of down to Earth realists and now we have a whole bunch of Really Great Dreamers - what a change.”

No, we’re not a bunch of New Agers. It is YOU who is the “dreamer”. Perhaps John Lennon’s song “Imagine” is your life theme?

The facts are that even the ILLEGALS don’t want this. They want citizenship NOW. They aren’t coming here for the right reasons. They’re milking the cow at your expense. We now have more diseases here. 25% of our prisons are filled with violent ILLEGALS. For every dollar they declare - which most DON'T, taxpayers kick in $3.00. Our hospitals are shutting down because of ILLEGAL nonpayment. Our public schools are flooded with them and still they refuse to learn English. 60% of ILLEGALS drop out of high school. THIS is not what we need. No back ground checks are done. They are taking jobs AMERCIANS that are LEGAL want - landscaping, painting, building. They are putting AMERICANS out of work - those that work.

No, this is not what America is about nor do I want to live ina country where the rule of law is INFLUENCED by NUMBERS. NUMBERS determining what the rule of law is this month - that is chaos.

17 posted on 06/02/2007 8:05:17 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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Isn’t it funny how they “know” how many illegals are here.

For all we know, it’s 5M or 2M. If they can determine a number, they can deport them.


18 posted on 06/02/2007 8:06:34 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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I don't see it as a dream. I see anything short of enforcing existing laws as a dream.

Illegal immigrants do not follow existing laws, what make you think they will follow any new laws? You are the one dreaming.

19 posted on 06/02/2007 8:18:36 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: nmh

You are a Really Great Dreamer - don’t be shy about it.


20 posted on 06/02/2007 8:19:31 AM PDT by alex
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