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Lacrosse case leaving mark in courts
Raleigh (NC) News and Observer ^ | May 27, 2007 | Benjamin Niolet

Posted on 05/27/2007 7:48:11 AM PDT by NCjim

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1 posted on 05/27/2007 7:48:14 AM PDT by NCjim
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"You get the feeling everybody's thinking about the unsaid elephant in the room," said Nick Saparilas, a Wake County criminal defense lawyer. "It's not fair to 99.9 percent of all the prosecutors that have to deal with that."

Poor baby. The presumption of innocence is now the "elephant in the room"?

2 posted on 05/27/2007 7:51:24 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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She said prosecutors have to now double their efforts to do everything right.


When sloppy work might take away the freedom (or even life) of someone who is innocent shouldn’t you aready make damn sure you do everything right?


3 posted on 05/27/2007 7:53:58 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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Nifong led the charge against the lacrosse players. He denounced them to the news media while trying to build a case in spite of nonexistent and contrary evidence. He removed himself from the case after the State Bar, the agency that licenses lawyers, accused him of ethics violations.

Hey, don't forget the witness intimidation -- arresting the taxi driver on a long-dismissed bogus charge.

4 posted on 05/27/2007 7:55:31 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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My belief is that the Elephant in the room is the fact that the woman who caused all this pain is free and loose and breeding.

Nothing has been done to prosecute her for ruining the reputation of these boys and the Lacrosse team.
She is free as a bird.

The 88 teachers who condemned these men havent received so much as a warning and are still teaching, their tripe.


5 posted on 05/27/2007 7:57:27 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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"You get the feeling everybody's thinking about the unsaid elephant in the room," said Nick Saparilas, a Wake County criminal defense lawyer. "It's not fair to 99.9 percent of all the prosecutors that have to deal with that." Poor baby. The presumption of innocence is now the "elephant in the room"?

Since prosecutors in most places are elected, and hawk percentage of cases investigated that result in a conviction as an election issue, I deny that the number of honest prosecutors has ever nudged the 70% range in my lifetime.

6 posted on 05/27/2007 7:58:08 AM PDT by MrEdd (L. Ron Gore creator of "Fry-n-tology" the global warming religion.)
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To: NCjim; Constitution Day; Tax-chick; Tijeras_Slim; xsmommy; aculeus; dighton; Thinkin' Gal; ...
"You get the feeling everybody's thinking about the unsaid elephant in the room," said Nick Saparilas, a Wake County criminal defense lawyer.

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7 posted on 05/27/2007 7:58:14 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Nifong belongs in Jail ....


8 posted on 05/27/2007 7:59:04 AM PDT by DvdMom (Impeach Nifong -)
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"Good prosecutors, and I know many of them across the country, including in North Carolina, do not try our cases in the press. We do not withhold evidence, and we do not use cases for political purposes," Marquis said.

I think this all could have been avoided if NC provided Grand Jury transcripts so that the DA could be held accountable. The NC Grand Jury system is too pro-prosecution, defendants don't stand a chance. What on earth did Nifong present to the GJ? We'll never know!

9 posted on 05/27/2007 7:59:15 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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"Good prosecutors, and I know many of them across the country, including in North Carolina, do not try our cases in the press. We do not withhold evidence, and we do not use cases for political purposes," Marquis said.

And then there's Patrick Fitzgerald...

10 posted on 05/27/2007 8:02:37 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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The rule should be the same sentence he advocated for them applies to him, because he lied.


11 posted on 05/27/2007 8:03:35 AM PDT by bvw
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Ping


12 posted on 05/27/2007 8:07:51 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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"You get the feeling everybody's thinking about the unsaid elephant in the room," said Nick Saparilas, a Wake County criminal defense lawyer. "It's not fair to 99.9 percent of all the prosecutors that have to deal with that."

The elephant in the room is that you have to have a presumption of innocence, probable cause, and you don't get to just chuck evidence that disproves your case. Maybe next time you'll choose your colleagues a little more carefully.

Don't like your job anymore? McDonald's and Winchell's Donuts has openings.

13 posted on 05/27/2007 8:10:32 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Bad spellers of the world untie!!)
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nifong should be in jail!

the duke faculty 88 + the president of duke should be dismissed!

nothing happened to the black woman accuser!!!

only the lacrosse coach/the team and most importantly these 3 innocents will need the rest of their lives to try and re-establish their permanently damaged reputations....

if this case had been in reverse as in the rape/murder case in kentucky of 5 black animals against the 2 whites...the lib/dem (pc) press would have done nothing!!!!


14 posted on 05/27/2007 8:18:17 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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And then there's Patrick Fitzgerald...

You've never been really Nifonged until you've been Fitzed.

15 posted on 05/27/2007 8:19:05 AM PDT by marron
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Prosecutors can not only take away one’s freedom or life, but also their reputation in the community. However, far too many prosecutors are driven by their egos and personal agendas. Crooks/rapists/murderers should be locked up because they are guilty, not because the prosecutor has a personal agenda.


16 posted on 05/27/2007 8:22:42 AM PDT by EDINVA
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“The unsaid elephant” ... LOL! Maybe it could be a rock band!


17 posted on 05/27/2007 8:23:31 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Is there any extra food around here anywhere?")
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how illiterate, everyone knows it’s “unspoken” not “unsaid”....


18 posted on 05/27/2007 8:31:52 AM PDT by xsmommy
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This one isn't over, by a long shot. In fact the fun hasn't even started yet; it starts in about two weeks. Look for billion-dollar lawsuits against Duke and the city of Durham and a hundred or so million to multi-million dollar suits against individuals and no law of man, God, or physics requires that those suits take place in North Carolina. There could very easily be scenes of those turkeys having to crawl into some NY or NJ courtroom to face judges and juries totally pissed at what happens when kids from those states try to go south for an education.

There is also the question of whether Duke wants to stay in Durham NC or move. To my thinking they have to move sine I can't picture a parent in his right mind sending a kid to any school in Durham at this point.

19 posted on 05/27/2007 8:39:56 AM PDT by rickdylan
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“The NC Grand Jury system is too pro-prosecution, defendants don’t stand a chance.’

They aren’t supposed to. It’s a hearing to see if there is sufficient reason to bring someone to trial, not convict them.

The proceeds need to remain hidden because, as you imply, the defendant isn’t there to refute charges, which may be wildly inappropriate and over the top. But they are just that ... charges, not convictions. It’s too hard to unsmear someone, so the records are kept sealed.


20 posted on 05/27/2007 9:14:41 AM PDT by gcruse
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