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Did You See This from Mike Chertoff on Friday?
National Review ^ | May 21 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 05/21/2007 6:55:22 PM PDT by PghBaldy

MICHAEL CHERTOFF, HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: You know, Wolf, first, I understand there's *** some people who expect anything other than capital punishment is an amnesty. *** The reality is the proposal here requires people who came in illegally who want to stay to pay a penalty. Like a fine. That's a punishment. That's not an amnesty.


TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; chertoff; immigration
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To: org.whodat

When are these anti-american haters be thrown in jail with the illegals?


41 posted on 05/21/2007 7:28:54 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: PghBaldy

Why not just sell citizenship at the border or ports of entry? That would simplify it enough for pro Illegal imigration idiots like Chertoff, Kennedy, McCain, Reid and GWB.


42 posted on 05/21/2007 7:29:10 PM PDT by rock58seg (Conservative American skeptics: The worlds last bastion of sanity.)
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To: umgud
“us extremists will only settle for mass deportation of 12-20 million illegals and that is not possible.”

I challenge ANYONE to prove that anyone with any standing EVER said to “deport all 12 million”. The challenge is out. Anyone show me?

43 posted on 05/21/2007 7:29:11 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: EternalVigilance

I really, really, really dislike my government right now.

Time for a revolution.


44 posted on 05/21/2007 7:29:14 PM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I used to think that Bush was doing OK. Not as good as I wanted but OK.

I was wrong.

After 911 he should have asked for a declaration of war.

We should have reinstituted the draft, not for the military, but for the Homeland Defense Force. Trained by the military but used to guard our airports and all strategic facilities. This could have been set up easily so that following basic and AIT, you could be assigned close to home. Service could also be combined with involuntary college training.

Invade Afghanistan? Yes. Invade Iraq? Yes. Do it like we did it? No! Rumsfeld was a disaster. He would not allow the military leaders to plan for the occupation. We did not invade Iraq with enough troops for a proper occupation.

Bush allowed Rumsfeld to much latitude. Bush is responsible for three years of doing exactly the same thing in Iraq and yet expecting the results to change. He is responsible for the Republicans losing Congress.

Immigration: Bush is allowing the filthy elite rich of Mexico to maintain that country as a third world hell hole. If people starve or die living there or trying to escape into America, he is responsible for not forcing Mexico's leadership to start cleaning up their country. His lack of leadership is responsible for the poor little seperation of babies and their parents (Like that really happens.)

And my last subject (for tonight's rant, not all of the things Bush has done wrong.) Bush trusted the damn demoncraps like only a simpleton would. He should have fired every Clinton appointee on day 1. Tenet at the CIA, Bush's fault. All of those Clinton AGs not invetsigating crimes the clintons and demoncraps did (voter fraud, etc) is Bush's fault for not cleaning house.

No, I do have one more thing. Sandy Berger should have been tried for treason for destroying evidence to influence the 911 Commission. Berger's actions could prevent the 911 Commission, and ultimately we Americans, from learning the truth. This means that he is contributing to another 911 type of disaster by covering up what went wrong this time. I call Berger's actions treason and I call Bush's actions incompetence.

45 posted on 05/21/2007 7:30:06 PM PDT by american_ranger
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To: PghBaldy
Hey Mike, amnesty is when we don't hang you for treason.
46 posted on 05/21/2007 7:30:41 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: lonestar67
What would you do if 12 million illegal aliens were willing to fight for us in Iraq?

Do you still beat your wife?

47 posted on 05/21/2007 7:30:54 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: PghBaldy
I respected Chertoff during the Whitewater hearings and was encouraged to see him named to this position.

However, I have begun to believe that not only must Bush appointees (save the Supremes) tout the Bush policy, they must do so while willingly opposing the American people and the extreme danger to our borders if we leave this system in place for one more day!!!

48 posted on 05/21/2007 7:31:14 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: PghBaldy

These pro-amnesty people are great with their straw-man arguements. LOL!


49 posted on 05/21/2007 7:31:36 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (Good News everyone!!!! It's baseball season!!!!!)
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To: South40

Nah, his boss is the only one with nads in fighting the islamo nazis.


50 posted on 05/21/2007 7:32:12 PM PDT by pissant
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To: american_ranger

A most excellent post which i agree with 100%....you sum it up nicely and succinctly.


51 posted on 05/21/2007 7:32:33 PM PDT by teldon30 (disgruntled 2nd class)
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To: Old Sarge

Yep!


52 posted on 05/21/2007 7:33:01 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: pissant
“Nah, his boss is the only one with nads in fighting the islamo nazis.”

You mean the “islamo nazis” he praises? Holds hands with? Gives money and arms to?

Those “islamo nazis”?

53 posted on 05/21/2007 7:33:16 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: pissant

Fight them while leaving the backdoor to this country open for them.


54 posted on 05/21/2007 7:33:40 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: tapatio

“What would you do if these 12 million were al queda?” Would you give them amnesty also?

Actually, I believe they would. They seem to be doing the best they can to make sure we get as many Third Worlders in here as we can—Al Queda as well. I can’t even begin to guess at their motivations, but protecting the American people sure ain’t one of ‘em.


55 posted on 05/21/2007 7:34:10 PM PDT by rbg81 (1)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Exactly! Simply enforce the laws that have been on the books for decades, and stop intimidating the border patrol and others who want to enforce them, and the problem would be solved.


56 posted on 05/21/2007 7:34:10 PM PDT by baa39 (Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us. Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.)
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To: tapatio

What would you do if these 12 million

Here’s the real question,what would you do if 12 million people tried to cheat on their income taxes ???


57 posted on 05/21/2007 7:34:28 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: South40
“Fight them while leaving the backdoor to this country open for them.”

The front door too. This Administration has actively tried to increase Muslim immigration into the United States.

Bush PERSONNALLY arranged for 10,000 Saudi “students” last year.

58 posted on 05/21/2007 7:34:49 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: South40

Stop it!!! You’re not suppose to mention that huge gorilla in the living room....nothing to see...just move along. ;)


59 posted on 05/21/2007 7:34:53 PM PDT by teldon30 (disgruntled 2nd class)
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To: FredHunter08

What the heck are you talking about?


60 posted on 05/21/2007 7:34:53 PM PDT by pissant
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