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Details Revealed of Senate Compromise Bill
HUMAN EVENTS ^ | 05/17/2007 | Jed Babbin

Posted on 05/18/2007 7:48:14 PM PDT by neverdem

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This is supposed to be fleshed out to 600 - 1000 pages.
1 posted on 05/18/2007 7:48:16 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

This would be the end of this country. WOT would be lost, too. We have to defeat this bill. Here is my list:

1: Presidential candidates (esp Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson) needs to lead the public fight aggressively.

2: Pelosi needs (well, wants) 70 republican votes in the House. Make sure this won’t happen. Call and fax your rep.

3: House republicans can shut down the House.

4: If everything else fails, ask a pledge from House republicans: “If Bush does not veto amnesty bill, we will support troop withdrawal and impeachement”. This forces Bush to veto it.

If you have better ideas, please speak up soon. Next week it is too late.


2 posted on 05/18/2007 7:55:04 PM PDT by latteconservative
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To: neverdem

I’m from the government and here to help...
I’ll still love you in the morning...
I won’t .... .. .... mouth.


3 posted on 05/18/2007 7:55:30 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: neverdem
That's why its a shamnesty. It will produce two things: amnesty and zero border enforcement. The amnesty comes first though. And the Open Borders folks are selling the American people a bill of used goods.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 05/18/2007 7:58:17 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: latteconservative
“If Bush does not veto amnesty bill, we will support troop withdrawal and impeachement”.

It doesn't make much sense to ask soldiers to risk their lives to defend a Country that no longer exists.

5 posted on 05/18/2007 8:04:36 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: neverdem

Every Republican who considers this a sell-out should, within the next week (the quicker the better) change his party affiliation from “Republican” to anything else.


6 posted on 05/18/2007 8:16:35 PM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: neverdem

McCain’s F-bomb retort to Cornyn over immigration proves that he’s a loose cannon and a latter day Captain Queeg.

All he needs is the ball bearings to roll in his hand.

Dr. Strangelove from Arizona.

Buh bye, Johnny.

Conservatives will never, ever trust you.


7 posted on 05/18/2007 8:17:00 PM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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To: neverdem

This is why no senator will be elected POTUS, thankfully - look at the cast, both parties.

Fred supporters won’t like this, but it’s a fatal flaw.


8 posted on 05/18/2007 8:35:14 PM PDT by quantim (2008 => I'll take an imperfect winner over a perfect loser.)
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To: latteconservative
“If Bush does not veto amnesty bill, we will support troop withdrawal and impeachement”. This forces Bush to veto it.

Yeah right. Defeat the bill - yes - but practice political terrorism against our President over this bill - uh no.

9 posted on 05/18/2007 8:40:06 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: neverdem

Why can’t we start sending illegals back? There is no reason to feel guilty about that, its enforcing the law. All 12 million illegals do not have to go back at one time.


10 posted on 05/18/2007 8:42:03 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: plain talk
Yeah right. Defeat the bill - yes - but practice political terrorism against our President over this bill - uh no.

If you have a better idea how to defeat this, let me know. Anyway, this is a backup plan if everything else fails.
11 posted on 05/18/2007 8:45:06 PM PDT by latteconservative
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To: neverdem

The liberal unions and Soros will foot the $5K for their illegal alien/ “Z Visa” recruits.


12 posted on 05/18/2007 8:46:37 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: neverdem
Just some quick notes. First, business skates as this bill states noting about companies hiring illegal aliens. Companies can still contribute to hiding them if they are here.

Second, these Z visas are for all nationalities here illegally (Mexicans and OTM's). Someone smarter than me would know but isn't this a reduction in the number of visas we presently hand out?

Third, do we really think the $5,000 penalties will be enforced?

Fourth, no mention of income tax or social security or medicare. But other bills already passed aid them in sending money home and collecting social security as retirees.
13 posted on 05/18/2007 8:49:24 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: quantim
This is why no senator will be elected POTUS, thankfully - look at the cast, both parties.

Fred supporters won’t like this, but it’s a fatal flaw.

I wouldn't bet against Fred. The three usual suspects are unlikely make it through the primaries.

14 posted on 05/18/2007 8:56:55 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: latteconservative

Your plan was stupid. Zero Congressmen would do what you suggested which is to threaten to deny funds to the troops and threaten impeachment. Get a grip.

No the model for defeating this is the Dubai Ports deal. We are hearing people on the left are not exactly thrilled over this either. If we do our part by flooding our reps with our outrage and the left provides some help that may be enough.

Some parts of this bill are good. If they just deleted the provisions dealing with earned amnesty (which is the heart of it) then the rest would not be too bad. :-)

My message to them will be clear. First things first. When you have a leaky dike you first plug the leak. You shut the border down tight, go after the businesses and slowly deport them. And if they want comprehensive immigration reform how about increasing the number of Chinese and Indians and reducing the mexican peasants? We should be getting the best and brightest not gardeners.


15 posted on 05/18/2007 9:15:58 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: K-oneTexas

Excuse me, but business does not skate. They bear the brunt of enforcement. They have to install the verification system and submit the docs to the gov. They will be wired to the gov every which way, and the barriers to cross referencing are down. It reminds me of the tax collection system. Business does the work, shoulders the expense, and risks the jack boot thugs, if they make a mistake. Now it is in reaql time. $75,000 fine. No more day laborers at the Home Depot.


16 posted on 05/18/2007 9:37:50 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: neverdem
If they can't and won't enforce the laws on the books now, they definitely won't enforce these. It's all a sham.



CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

17 posted on 05/18/2007 9:39:11 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: latteconservative

You just signed up and you’re supporting the withdrawal of troops and impeachment.

What Democrat is paying your bills?


18 posted on 05/18/2007 9:54:23 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Oldhunk
Every Republican who considers this a sell-out should, within the next week (the quicker the better) change his party affiliation from “Republican” to anything else.

Well, when "Republicans" change their registration to something else, then we'll know who the real RINO's are.

19 posted on 05/18/2007 9:55:57 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Rosemont

We are sending illegals back.

Deportations are going on at the rate of over 700 a day, but that can’t solve the problem as there are too many here now.


20 posted on 05/18/2007 9:58:18 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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