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Immigration Deal Would Grant Amnesty to Parents, Spouses and Children
Red State ^ | May 16, 2007

Posted on 05/16/2007 2:33:23 PM PDT by BradtotheBone

UPDATE: Six conservative senators are demanding that Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R.-Ky.) negotiate a “full and open debate” on the immigration legislation.

Senate Democrats and Republicans are working feverishly with the White House to put the finishing touches on an immigration proposal that could be announced later today or tomorrow. The deal would give illegal aliens living in the United States amnesty, according to confidential sources. It would also allow illegal aliens to bring their parents, spouses and children into the United States.

Multiple sources on Capitol Hill with knowledge of the proposal said Sen. Teddy Kennedy (D.-Mass.) has been able to extract significant concessions from Republicans. The critical part of the deal is a lengthy section that spells out the provisions related to “Z” visas -- or what my sources described as the “Amnesty Title” of the bill. The “Z” visas would be broken down into three categories as follows:

Z-1 -- Illegal alien present and working in the United States up to January 1, 2007 Z-2 -- Parents and spouses of illegal aliens qualifying under the Z-1 category Z-3 -- Children of illegal aliens qualifying under the Z-1 category

Read on ...

One section of the proposal grants these “Z” non-immigrants four-year visas for an indefinite period of time. These visas would be given to people not currently in the United States if they are related to a current illegal worker.

Sources indicate that these aliens, along with their dependents, would be allowed to legally remain in the United States under certain conditions for an indefinite period of time, even if they chose not to pursue the so called “pathway to citizenship.”

The burden of proof would be low for illegal aliens to prove that they were continually illegally present in United States. This provision would reward the illegal alien for proving continual illegal presence and illegal employment in the United States with a “Z” visa. This provision in the Kennedy deal, approved by some Republicans, is clearly amnesty under any definition, according to immigration experts whom I consulted.

The proposal would require illegal immigrants to pay a fine to apply for the “Z” visa, but despite that penalty, conservatives are likely characterize this deal as a major sell out to Kennedy and his pro-amnesty allies.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; buildthewall; cwii; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; perfidy; shamnesty; treason
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1 posted on 05/16/2007 2:33:28 PM PDT by BradtotheBone
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To: BradtotheBone

UH, no thank you. We already have them here. Scram!


2 posted on 05/16/2007 2:38:24 PM PDT by doodad
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To: BradtotheBone

Tell your senators how you feel

http://www.numbersusa.com/faxcenter


3 posted on 05/16/2007 2:38:36 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: BradtotheBone

What a bunch of bastards.


4 posted on 05/16/2007 2:40:07 PM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: BradtotheBone

This can’t be true.

Lindsey Graham is representing John McCain on this, since Johnny Mc is too busy running for the Presidency and wants to distance himself.

Last evening the in the debate, John McCain said that he “has never supported amnesty.”

So this can’t be correct. Johnny wouldn’t lie [would he?].


5 posted on 05/16/2007 2:41:06 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: tsowellfan

I will, but my situation’s pretty hopeless, both of my senators are liberal Democrats.


6 posted on 05/16/2007 2:41:56 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: BradtotheBone

Apparently the republicans want a repeat of what they saw in the last election.

It is unfortunate (for them and for the country) that they continue to ignore the part of the country that is between the East and West coasts.

Illegal immigration was a huge reason we lost. They can blame it on the war, on Bush, on whatever they want, but illegal immigration is a HUGE part of it.

How many ways can we say it? Apparently there is no way that our elected reps are going to hear us, regarding this issue, as they continue barreling ahead to throw themselves over the cliff.


7 posted on 05/16/2007 2:43:06 PM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Baladas
I will, but my situation’s pretty hopeless, both of my senators are liberal Democrats.

It wouldn't matter if they were Republicans. This one is going to pass easily, and Bush is going to sign it.
8 posted on 05/16/2007 2:43:46 PM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: BradtotheBone
Bush has a Congress he can work with.

Maybe the House will stop this albatross again.

Bush, Kennedy Join Forces Over Immigration
  Posted by jamese777
On 05/16/2007 4:33:22 PM CDT · 5+ views


USA Today ^ | 5/16/07 | Kathy Kiely
As he presses for legacy-building immigration legislation, President Bush finds himself aligned with the same unlikely ally who helped enact his first major domestic initiative. That would be Sen. Edward Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat who played a crucial role in crafting and passing the No Child Left Behind Act, the president's massive effort to overhaul education policy. In a speech to the Associated General Contractors of America on May 2, Bush acknowledged Kennedy as a key player in the talks that are culminating this week, when the Senate opens an immigration debate. "I appreciate the leadership he's taken," Bush said....

9 posted on 05/16/2007 2:44:15 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: BradtotheBone

The best part of this new legislation is that illegals here that don’t qualify for some form of legalization won’t be at any greater risk of being rounded up and being deported than before the new legislation.

This means that the only thing that will change is that millions will get amnesty, but nobody will be booted out.

What a great country!


10 posted on 05/16/2007 2:46:27 PM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: Baladas
I will, but my situation’s pretty hopeless, both of my senators are liberal Democrats.

Mine are both Dem-bots. They don't have the capacity to think for themselves; they just vote the party line without question.
11 posted on 05/16/2007 2:46:37 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: BradtotheBone

A guy I know would love to immigrate to the US to escape the communist/socialist hellhole of Sweden, and had numerous chances to overstay his tourist visa while visiting relatives in New York, but no, he obeyed the law, and is now stuck trying to apply for a green card behind tens of thousands of other people from around the world, or hope for a lucky draw in the 2008 Diversity Visa lottery.

It sucks.


12 posted on 05/16/2007 2:48:35 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: TomGuy
Johnny wouldn’t lie [would he?].

Well, technically what they're describing here is not amnesty. It's unconditional surrender to Mexico.

13 posted on 05/16/2007 2:48:50 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Ladycalif; chicagolady; Gelato; Waywardson; Broadside

ping...


14 posted on 05/16/2007 2:50:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (It wasn't a debate. It was a mass interview....)
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To: BradtotheBone

we’re fkd.


15 posted on 05/16/2007 2:50:07 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: BradtotheBone
"The deal would give illegal aliens living in the United States amnesty, according to confidential sources. It would also allow illegal aliens to bring their parents, spouses and children into the United States."

I'll betcha they all have at least a dozen children, wink, wink..

This is going to bankrupt our country, and we'll still need migrant workers.

sw

16 posted on 05/16/2007 2:50:48 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: BradtotheBone; B4Ranch

So Jorge, you hang with the Kennedy.... and Nixon went to China. How the hell do you socialists propose to finance this?

Where the hell are the bots?


17 posted on 05/16/2007 2:53:40 PM PDT by glock rocks (They'll never take me alive)
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To: tsowellfan

Why bother.........these gutless b@stards are going to sell out America regardless of what the citizens of this nation want.

Save your dime.


18 posted on 05/16/2007 2:53:50 PM PDT by newcthem (A former republican......now I'm a Fredsureashellcan !!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: BradtotheBone
Just out of curiosity, what does the republican party stand for?
19 posted on 05/16/2007 2:56:54 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: BradtotheBone

This would be the perfect way to never win an election again.


20 posted on 05/16/2007 2:56:56 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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