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Time for the sun to set on the Culture of Sheep
Buckeye Firearms Association ^ | May 15, 2007 | Tim Inwood

Posted on 05/15/2007 7:13:41 AM PDT by bamahead

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Excellent Essay on the *right* to Self-Defense!

Link is currently very slow, probably because Boortz has it posted as well.

Enjoy!

1 posted on 05/15/2007 7:13:45 AM PDT by bamahead
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To: traviskicks; DaveLoneRanger

ping!


2 posted on 05/15/2007 7:14:08 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead
Jeff May, armed only with a #2 pencil, charged Weise and stabbed him in the side with his pencil.

So, under the school's idiotic no-tolerance policy on fighting, he was suspended, right? /sarc, but barely...

3 posted on 05/15/2007 7:22:30 AM PDT by piytar
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To: piytar

BTW, that Jeff May kid really is a hero! That high schooler has more guts in his little finger than you’d find in an entire Million Moron March or Democra# National Convention, excluding the few exceptions such as Gov. Stickland (pro-2nd D-OH) in Ohio...


4 posted on 05/15/2007 7:24:30 AM PDT by piytar
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To: bamahead
Excellent. Well thought out.

It is past due time to do away with those in power who would force us to be sheep. With extreme sanction if they won't leave quietly.

In an era when terrorists can strike anywhere at any time, this is no time to be disarmed.

5 posted on 05/15/2007 7:25:38 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: bamahead

My nine year old daughter was elbowed in the chest by a boy because he was angry at me.
When we went to the pastor about it, he disregarded it and took it for fact that my daughter had hit first.

One brave lady told him that if my daughter hit anyone, she was the Queen of England. (thank God for this lady) The pastor was taken aback but has done nothing about the kid.

Just like the article, the kid has a rap sheet a mile long.

I talked to my niece who is a Police Officer. She will teach my girls some moves to defend themselves. Until then, we are out of all church activities.
And my girls are getting pepper spray.

When did we become sheep?


6 posted on 05/15/2007 7:26:05 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: bamahead

Thanks and bump


7 posted on 05/15/2007 7:26:56 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: bamahead
Where was FOX news when these stories happened??? Why arent THEY wall-to-wall with this?

I wish they would stop trying to be 'fair and balanced' and just be openly conservative and the hell with what the other news outlets say. The liberal media is going to call them names anyway (unless the just run completley liberal)

Their ratings would soar

8 posted on 05/15/2007 7:30:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: bamahead
I think we all here at FR can relate to a story like this one..when we were children..and never knew that we would live every day of our life defending ourselves from these idiots...
9 posted on 05/15/2007 7:33:17 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: netmilsmom

Let me give you a psychic reading on your pastor.

He cuts this problem kid slack because of his history/family situation and believes that if the church can just love him enough where he is, he will come to Jesus and so the rest of church has got to put up with this kid’s behavior until then?

Co-dependant pastor, unable to distinquish between sheep and goats, sacrifices the gentle lambs (good kids) in a desparate and pointless quest to save a goat. Your pastor is not doing the kid any favors by ignoring his behavior, he’s merely reaffirming the kid’s belief that no one really cares what he does (and thus noone really cares about him). And Christians are all saps and hypocrites.


10 posted on 05/15/2007 7:48:19 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Social vs fiscal conservatism? Sorry, I'm not voting my wallet over the broken bodies of the innocen)
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To: Beth528

You’re probably right.


11 posted on 05/15/2007 7:50:06 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * WAHOO WA! * Allen for Senator from VA * Fred Thompson for President)
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To: Beth528

I had a similar discussion with my kids when they going to school. One son asked me if I would punish him if he got into a fight at school. I told him that I did not want him to get into a fight at school. I told him that even if he fought back, and he was right, he would get into trouble from the school authorities. Then I told him that under no circumstances did I ever want him to stand there and let someone punch and slap him. I told him, basically, to kick their ass. If he was right, I would support him. I asked him if he understood what I was trying to tell him, and he did!


12 posted on 05/15/2007 8:00:08 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: netmilsmom
When did we become sheep?

What do you mean "we"? ;^)

13 posted on 05/15/2007 8:11:12 AM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Void where prohibited.)
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To: bamahead

Reminds me of my school days at the start. Add insult to injury, the person defending themselves gets the severe punishment, the instigator gets off with a slap on the hand if that much.


14 posted on 05/15/2007 8:16:08 AM PDT by CORedneck
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You said it. Had a similar situation as in the article happen to me in 3rd grade. Got pushed around, fought back. Kid was no stranger to the administrators, yet I had a clean record.

We both got the same sentence...1 week of detention. They put us in the same room, and as I recall he didn’t even show up for it on the last day, but there was apparently no repercussion for that.

2 weeks after our punishment was over, he knocked a girl’s front teeth out during recess. A GIRL.

They sent him packing to alternative school after that one.


15 posted on 05/15/2007 8:25:01 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: netmilsmom

The 1960s. The Peace and Love Generation - remember them?

Yeah. They’re why. Up until then, parents taught their kids to stand up for what they believed in, up to and including fighting back when attacked.

Now, you’re only supposed to stand up for what you believe in if it is something popular in the media and you should never fight back because violence is always wrong. /sarc

F-ing hippies.


16 posted on 05/15/2007 8:32:08 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Enterprise

Schools are war zones for some children..There are so many bad people out there that we have to watch everything that happens to our children..I would never let my child stand and take something from a bully that was raised by a liberal idiot..you are right but my advice is to have a lawyer on hand because you and I both know that a liberal will try and sue anyone just for a few bucks.


17 posted on 05/15/2007 8:42:31 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: Dead Corpse
“Because you fought back,” I was told.

When my kid was being picked on by a bully at school I was told this very thing by his assistant principal. "The school policy is that the one fighting back gets the same punishment as the one who started it. Students are supposed to (I sh** you not she said this) roll up in a ball and take it until a teacher shows up."

"What if he has a knife?" I asked.

"Oh all weapons are banned in school." replied Assistant Principal Nitwit.

"What if the bully ignores your ban?" I asked.

"We deal with that most severely."

"What is severe?" I asked.

"He could be expelled." She smiled as she said this.

"So let me get this straight. You expect my son to roll up in a ball and get pounded on at a minimum and quite possibly murdered at the maximum and if he defends himself in any way you'll punish him just like you did the one who started the violence. Do I have your stupid little policy right? Have I missed anything?"

She looked very uncomfortable for a moment and said "Well I admit it may not seem to make sense, but we have to treat every one equally or we could get sued."

"Well let me tell you our policy on violence madame. My son has been instructed to run away if it's possible and find an adult. If that's not possible he is to do everything in his power to defend himself from a violent attacker and that includes him using violence. And if you think for even a split second about punishing my kid for defending himself from a bully I guarantee you'll find yourself in Court from that day until the day you retire."

I continued: "Not only will I sue the School District, I'll sue you personally for depriving my child of his civil rights. I'll see you stripped of your indemnity and have every dime of the judgement I win come out of any future salary you manage to scrape up flipping burgers and you can kiss your fat taxpayer financed pension good bye as well. Now you stop the bullying before my son is forced to use the Tae Kwan Do skills I spent a considerable amount of time and money having him learn."

"Do we understand each other Madame Asst. Principal?"

She managed to squeak out a "Yes."

I bid her a good day and left.

L

18 posted on 05/15/2007 8:42:56 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: rabscuttle385
We really need to watch our children,if they go to public school then they are at risk of some bully fighting with them..Keep aware of the child's teachers and class mates...Most children are bullied and never say a word until they have been hurt..just look at all these videos that are coming out on Ytube or what ever that site is..It makes me sick to know any child has to put up with morons like those..I can only imagine what kind of home like those fools have..
19 posted on 05/15/2007 8:48:53 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: wallcrawlr

Don’t get excited.


20 posted on 05/15/2007 8:58:24 AM PDT by RockinRight (Proud FREDeralist.)
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