[1rudeboy]

No, but when a hispanic man kills an American Family on the freeway (or even a family of illegal aliens), the odds are that the hispanic man is here illegally. That's just a statistical fact.

No, it's P-Marlowe BS. If it is a statistical fact, then you should have no trouble proving it.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

No, it's P-Marlowe BS. If it is a statistical fact, then you should have no trouble proving it.

IMO, the reason Jorge Miguel Romero's name wasn't mentioned until the end of the article is that he was DWI (driving while illegal). Newspapers are known for concealing undesirable information in this way.

One of the problems gathering the type of statistical information you request is that most LE agencies are forbidden from asking about immigration status. That's a fact.

Here's an article that points to the information you request. (California's hit-and-run crisis)

The California DMV estimates that out of 22 million drivers, 1 million are unlicensed. AAA did a study that found that 21 percent (almost 1 in every 4) fatal accidents involved drivers who were not licensed. So, the odds are 1 in 4 that Jorge was an illegal.

No one knows how many unlicensed drivers are on the roads. For its part, the Department of Motor Vehicles estimates that the state has 1 million unlicensed drivers, compared to 22.6 million license-holders.

A study by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety, released in February, found that 21 percent of all fatal crashes in California between 1993 and 1999 involved drivers who lacked valid licenses.

The report said many of the state's unlicensed motorists are either undocumented aliens or drivers who cannot afford often-costly car insurance, which is required in California.

State legislation could reduce the number of unlicensed and uninsured drivers. A bill by state Sen. Gilbert Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, would allow undocumented immigrants to obtain California driver's licenses. And since state law requires a license to purchase auto insurance, they could then become insured. The bill, SB60, has passed the Senate and is before the Assembly.

Gil Cedillo wants to give licenses to illegals and has wanted to for quite a while now. But, to think that the person who flaunted US law to get here will suddenly want to become law-abiding by paying for insurance is as ludicrous as the currently logic behind Bush's so-called immigration reform. If we're not enforcing the existing laws now, what makes anyone think we'll enforce the new laws once they're put into place?

Let's look at the number of fake IDs. This is how illegal aliens are able to get trucking jobs, etc. (Immigration loophole leads to spread of fake-ID mills & Fake IDs critical and easy to get)

It is virtually impossible to tell exactly how many of the estimated 10 million undocumented immigrants in the United States use invalid or fraudulently obtained Social Security cards to gain employment, obtain driver's licenses or get loans, but there are indicators that the practice is endemic.

• The Social Security Administration has what it calls an "earnings suspense file" where it deposits payroll tax withholdings from names and Social Security numbers that don't match its records. The file totals more than $380 billion since 1937, with as much as $190 billion added in the 1990s alone. Social Security officials suspect much of the recent growth can be attributed to undocumented immigrants using fictitious or fake Social Security numbers because of a 1986 law that made it illegal to hire someone without a number or another authorization to work. Nearly 50 percent of the deposits into the earnings suspense file came from the agriculture, service and restaurant industries.
• Last year, there were more than 50,000 calls made to the Social Security fraud hot line, with many reporting the fraudulent use of Social Security numbers.
• In the United States, it is illegal to hire anyone who cannot provide proof that he or she is legally entitled to work. The most common proof is a Social Security card. Yet 96 percent of undocumented immigrant men are estimated to be in the work force.
• For more than a year, the Houston Chronicle has closely followed a diverse group of undocumented immigrants in Houston. Virtually all have at some point used phony Social Security cards and numbers. "We do understand that there is a readily available source for these cards," said Wes Davis, a Social Security spokesman in the Dallas regional office. "It's pervasive and a big problem."