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To: P-Marlowe; sevenbak; restornu; MHGinTN
I will do my best to answer your poorly worded questions to the best of my ability.

Did God exist before you existed?
Intelligences can neither be destroyed nor created. So as an intelligence, no.
God is the father of my spirit, so he was before me spiritually, so yes
God created Adam from whom I am descended (reports of my being found under a rock not withstanding) so as a human, Yes.

Did God create you or were you and God both "from everlasting"?
That depends on the context of the question, see the three answers above.

Which came first, you or God?
That depends on the context of the question, see the three answers above.

God the father compared to me (an insignificant mortal) is eternal all powerful all knowing and all seeing. Compared to me a child of God, he is my father and all that he has achieved can be achieved by me as well, because he is my father.

Do you agree with the following statement:

"God, the Eternal Father was once a mortal man who passed through a school of earth life similar to that through which we are now passing. He became God - an exalted being - through obedience to the same eternal Gospel principles that we are given opportunity to obey today"


Yes.

I think your questions should be “Do Mormons believe in the deification of man?”

The answer would be Yes, and so did the early church.
1,544 posted on 05/09/2007 11:46:49 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser; sevenbak; restornu; MHGinTN
Intelligences can neither be destroyed nor created. So as an intelligence, no.

So you and God started off as "intelligences" and he got the jump on you toward Godhood. Is that the way it works?

Who was the first God formed? Was it your Eternal Father, or was it some other "intelligence"'s eternal father?

If your Eternal Father is the Father of your spirit, then who is the Father of the Spirit your Eternal Father? Do you have an Eternal Grandfather? And does he have an Eternal Grandfather?

“Do Mormons believe in the deification of man?” The answer would be Yes, and so did the early church.

Then the early church was teaching heresy.

Do you agree with this scripture:

Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. (Isaiah 43:10 KJV)

Is that one of those scriptures that wasn't translated correctly?

1,558 posted on 05/09/2007 11:59:15 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: DelphiUser; P-Marlowe; sevenbak; MHGinTN; restornu; greyfoxx39

These quotes don’t neccessarily show that Mormons do not believe God was always God, but they do show the believe that God was once a man (perhaps God in embryo). I think it shows clearly that according to Mormonism, man has the ability to become God and are current in context with what the Church currenty teaches unless there’s been a revision since 1989.

“From President Snow’s understanding of the teachings of the Prophet on this doctrinal point, he coined the familiar couplet: ‘As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become.’ This teaching is peculiar to the restored gospel of Jesus Christ.”
Marion Romney (1st Presidency)
General Conference, October 1964

“The Lorenzo Snow couplet expresses a true statement: ‘As man is, God once was; and as God is, man may become.’”
Seventy Bruce C. Hafen
The Broken Heart: Applying the Atonement to Life’s Experiences, 1989, p.133

“This process known as eternal progression is succinctly expressed in the LDS aphorism, ‘As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.’”
Encyclopedia of Mormonism 4:1474


1,562 posted on 05/09/2007 12:07:48 PM PDT by colorcountry (It is wrong to criticize the leaders of the church even if the criticism is true ~Dallin Oaks)
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