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They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today
Saundra Duffy

Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy

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To: Bonaparte
Let's see. An individual who has no cumpunction of assailing someone else's faith and yet hides behind anonymity. Personal information? You can't tell me what church you go to? I've already shown there is a paucity of logic or fact. Are you scared to tell me what church you go to? My goodness, there is a computer and I am sure many miles between us. What have you to fear? I will even give a promise not to assail anyone's religion who cares to declare it to me. I have no problem with anyone's religion. I only have a problem with those who misrepresent mine and throw barbs and hide.
2,581 posted on 05/15/2007 7:38:24 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: Bonaparte

Which question have I failed to answer?


2,582 posted on 05/15/2007 7:42:09 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: DanielLongo
LOLOL!

Ok, DL, let's see you set the example for us all.

I need a complete personal background file on you, pronto! Everything! Including, but not limited to, your full income tax and business statements for the past 15 years, your military record, your personal health history with photocopies of all your medical records (please include those of your immediate relatives, as well, so I can assess your risk of genetically inherited disease), your criminal history (including traffic citations), any history of litigation in which you werre the defendant, any history of bankruptcy, repossession, or defaults on loans. Please include all social security numbers, account numbers, etc. and scan photocopies to us so we can verify that the information is correct, ok? And that's just for starters!

I know you don't approve of folks "hiding behind anonymity," so I expect you'll comply with this demand without delay. I thank you in advance for your cooperation.

2,583 posted on 05/15/2007 7:49:20 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: DanielLongo
"Joseph Smith did perform miracles and they are recorded."

Anyone who could marry more than 33 wives sure was a miracle worker. Eleven of Smith's wives were between ages 14 and 20, nine were in their 20s, eight were in Smith's own peer group of 31 to 40, two were in their 40s and three in their 50s. And not only was he sleeping with younguns, a lot of the women were still married to others. It truly is a miracle he didn't die of an STD.

"He died in Illinois. Brigham Young and the other apostles led the people to Utah."

That was pretty soon after his $3 Kirtland bank scam. Brigham Young was surely inspired, he married 11 of Joseph's wives. A regular Sodom and Gomoroh

"Latter-Day Saints do have more light and knowledge because we continue to receive revelation from the Lord and we are required to live by it."

Why, with all that revealed light and knowledge, why not skip straight to getting your own planet instead of hanging around with us dumb Christians who are just going to hell anyway if we don't bow to Joseph Smith.

I receive revelations myself every day, they are filled with (light and knowledge) squared, so I'm more full of it than anyone. And you know I'm telling the truth because I've never told a lie.

"However, God is no respecter of persons and all are beloved sons and daughters to Him."

Except those Christians and Jews who Joseph Smith said were abominations. Unless he was wrong about that, cause he seems to have been wrong a whole bunch.

"The hieroglyphics were produced and attested to by authorities in the field."

No they weren't, I posted a big link to the Mormon curator who tried to get them authenticated but gave up when four out of four real translators told him Joseph Smith's translations were a crock.

"I've seen the websites with the supposed facsimile that is supposed to be the original from which Joseph Smith referenced. If that is all you know on the subject then you are woefully uninformed. What did the detractors use to come up with their translation?"

Um, they used the same funeral wrappings Joseph Smith used. Of course, there are now literally thousands of funeral casks around, and not one of them has the same book of Abraham wrappings that Joseph Smith sucked out of thin air.

"2. He never lost the gold plates and there were many witnesses to them as you will find in the preface to the Book of Mormon. Those who became disaffected never recanted their witness of the plates."

So, where are they now? They must be worth billions. I guess they got made into the graven images you have on top your Temples.

"3.He did not lose a "first translation of the Book of Mormon". The manuscript for the first book within that set of scriptures, the "Book of Lehi" was taken and never returned."

That would be called "losing it" in anything other than Mormon speak. Mormon speak let's you always be right, unless you are wrong, in which case there's always a new revelation to make up for the mess you've created.

"4.Do you know what Moses and the Priests of Arron called the Urim and Thummim? That's in the Old Testament, if you've never read it."

I sure do know what they are, cause I have them right here. And I'm using them to translate the hieroglyphics I found wrapped around the imported computer parts I just got from Taiwan. They say "Joseph Smith not able translate bean soup".

I was going to use my secret decoder ring to translate my secret hieroglyphics, but the plastic broke and I lost it - oooops, I mean it was taken from me, the Prophet Fast Coyote never loses any sacred paraphenalia (unless the cops are headed my way, in which case it was a friend's).

"7.He did not run a bank in Kirtland and if you were familiar at all with U.S. history you would know that there was a national bank failure at the time, which happened to affect Kirtland. Kirtland was did not start it, was not the center of it, and certainly was insignificant as to the national scope of the crisis."

Then you must feel pretty stupid seeing as how Joseph Smith signed a $3 bill from Kirtland bank.

"And yes, Joseph Smith is a prophet of God. Gordon B. Hinkley is the living prophet at this moment. Revelation has not ceased, nor the ministering of angels, nor Christ's intimate dealings and direction with His Apostles. The heavens are not shut and yes, the Book of Mormon is the word of God and testifies that Jesus is the Christ, the only begotten of the Father in the flesh."

With all those saintly prophets running around, it's pretty hard to say that I couldn't just as well be a prophet. I think the BOM has been superceded by the Book of Zelph, look it up, it's highly enlightening.

2,584 posted on 05/15/2007 8:04:58 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Bonaparte

Ok, let see...
Born in Ohio, grew up in Florida, have two brothers (that’s probably all you want to know there) Oh, yes, my real name is Daniel Longo. I earned over 90K and filed under sub chapter S. The name of my business is Pennant. I’m 33 years old, so yeah I guess my tax returns go back to my Pizza Hutt days. No military record, my oldest brother served as a submariner in the Navy, the brother just older than I just finished his second tour in Iraq. He is an Apache pilot with the 101st. I wanted to be a Navy pilot and did the whole NJROTC thing, but my eyesight(which I was not aware of) prevented me from entering pilot training. It was the only thing I wanted to do, so I moved on. Still love planes with a passion. Still too poor to own my own, but I plan to one day. My Dad was inlisted during Vietnam but served as attache to some Generals in Texas. My grandmother was among the first nurses to go to the Pacific during WWII in the New Hebrides. My grandfather also served in the Pacific durring the war. No diseases. I’ve had two speeding tickets, one just a year ago. I served two hours in the pokey and posted bail for not having insurance and driving a motorcyle when I was 19 in Roswell, Georgia. No bankruptcies, repossessions, or defaults. I have an excellent credit rating and honor all my debts official or otherwise. I’ll give you the middle two 88 :) My wife handles all of our finances. I just make the money, so I honestly don’t know any account numbers.What’s next?


2,585 posted on 05/15/2007 8:08:10 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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Well with all that unnecessary personal data, this ol' heretical Episcopalian is going for the popcorn ...
2,586 posted on 05/15/2007 8:15:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: DanielLongo

“FastCoyote, that was a sincere question. What church do you go to? What is the denomination?”

I am the God/Prophet FastCoyote, it is my own church. I believe in multiple wives, banking pyramid schemes, looking through pretty glass to translate mystic sayings. Moreover, I have Golden Tablets, right here, right now, to attest to the truth of what I’m saying. A lot of people have seen these tablets, really they have, that’s the ticket.

I, like Joseph Smith, have had my ass kicked many times for my squirrely thinking habits and taste for other men’s wives, proving that I am a true prophet. Join my church, I pray of you, but don’t forget to send your tithe along with your application, filled out with your SS# and a major credit card.

If you won’t accept my evidence that Joseph Smith was a fraud, then I won’t accept any evidence that calls into question my Godliness.


2,587 posted on 05/15/2007 8:15:04 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote
Ah, so that's where the expression came from, ie. "phony as a three-dollar bill" -- the Bank of Kirtland!

And who permitted you to gaze upon the Book of Zelph? To make pronouncements of any kind about its contents? It is forbidden to all but the initiated. Now you must be cleansed, purged, mind-wiped and assimilated. As Dan Akroyd would say, "The Orbs of Meepzorp Await!" The Mother Ship will call for you at midnight. Be there or be square!

2,588 posted on 05/15/2007 8:15:19 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: DanielLongo

“So the righteous will sit in God’s throne. Is that even more arrogant? Have you read the scriptures?”

It is incredibly arrogant to believe you will be equal to God. That’s why Mormons cannot be trusted in positions of power (e.g. Harry Reid). You knever know when they are going to flip and believe they got their planet early.


2,589 posted on 05/15/2007 8:18:18 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Utah Girl; Truth-Miner

Well, are you gals watching the Utah Jazz Golden State game?


2,590 posted on 05/15/2007 8:23:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: DanielLongo
Mr Longo:

It has come to my attention that you have failed to fully comply with our Full Disclosure requirement. Vital information has not been included on your Full Disclosure Form Part A, nor has this office received the necessary documentation from you.

If you cannot locate this information or do not understand these requirements, Mrs. Longo will be happy to assist you in these matters.

Please review the items required in our Full Disclosure letter and complete the blank items by the deadline in our original letter.

Failure to do so, will result in referral to the enforcement section of our Administrative Review office.

Thankyou for your timely attention to this matter.

2,591 posted on 05/15/2007 8:24:19 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: FastCoyote

Harry Reid is a MINO (Mormon in Name Only). It’s so embarrassing.


2,592 posted on 05/15/2007 8:27:54 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy ( Mitt has the best hair!)
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To: Bonaparte
"And who permitted you to gaze upon the Book of Zelph? To make pronouncements of any kind about its contents? It is forbidden to all but the initiated. Now you must be cleansed, purged, mind-wiped and assimilated."

I have taken the test of the dice, and it spoke true to me:)

"As Dan Akroyd would say, "The Orbs of Meepzorp Await!" The Mother Ship will call for you at midnight. Be there or be square!

The group that ended as "Heaven's Gate" was known by various names over the twenty-two years of its existence. In the early years, at least, the group did not give itself a name. Hence, several of its names were given to it by outsiders. Sociologist Robert Balch, who studied the group during its early life, referred to them as the "Bo and Peep UFO Cult." Picking up on a key teaching of the group, news reporters often referred to the group as HIM ("human individual metamorphosis"). Members referred to themselves simply as "the group," and their leaders as "The Two." In a newspaper advertisement taken out by the group in 1994, they called themselves "Total Overcomers Anonymous." "Heaven's Gate," the name of their Web site, is apparently the name they settled on near the end of the life of the group. Marshall Herff Applewhite (aka Bo and Do) was born in 1931, the son of a Presbyterian minister in Spur, Texas. Bonnie Lu Nettles (aka Peep and Ti was born in 1927, though her birthplace is unknown. In 1952, Applewhite earned a B.A. at Austin College, and studied briefly at Union Theological Seminary in Richmond, Virginia before dropping out to pursue a career in music. He served as music director at the First Presbyterian Church in Gastonia, N.C. before moving to Houston. In Houston he pursued a career in the performing arts and became a professor of music at St. Thomas University. Nettles was a nurse when they met in Houston in 1972. Little is know about her background other than knowledge of her interest in metaphysical studies. She was a member of the local Theosophical Society and participated in channeling. She apparently introduced Applewhite to the world of metaphysical studies. Applewhite and Nettles met after he had been dismissed from St. Thomas University as the result of a scandal involving a male student. The dismissal plunged Applewhite into depression and bitterness. Balch (1995: 147) reports that Applewhite had long "vacillated between homosexual and heterosexual identities, never feeling comfortable with either." In Nettles, Applewhite found a "platonic helper" who did not threaten his sexual identity. Gradually isolating themselves, they cut off contact with others. During this period, reports Balch (1995: 142), they became "absorbed in a private world of vision, dreams, and paranormal experiences that included contacts with space beings who urged them to abandon their worldly pursuits."


If you're going to follow a false prophet, why not go all the way? Bo and Peep were doing the vision thing a lot more creatively than Joseph Smith.
2,593 posted on 05/15/2007 8:29:43 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote
"Joseph Smith did perform miracles and they are recorded." Anyone who could marry more than 33 wives sure was a miracle worker. Eleven of Smith's wives were between ages 14 and 20, nine were in their 20s, eight were in Smith's own peer group of 31 to 40, two were in their 40s and three in their 50s. And not only was he sleeping with younguns, a lot of the women were still married to others. It truly is a miracle he didn't die of an STD. that is rediculous. What were their names? Where did you get this piece of information? "He died in Illinois. Brigham Young and the other apostles led the people to Utah." That was pretty soon after his $3 Kirtland bank scam. Brigham Young was surely inspired, he married 11 of Joseph's wives. A regular Sodom and Gomoroh actually it was over ten years. The Saints travelled west in 1846. Brigham Young could not marry an of Joseph's wives because they had been sealed in the temple for time and all eternity. Again, where are you getting this from? "Latter-Day Saints do have more light and knowledge because we continue to receive revelation from the Lord and we are required to live by it." Why, with all that revealed light and knowledge, why not skip straight to getting your own planet instead of hanging around with us dumb Christians who are just going to hell anyway if we don't bow to Joseph Smith. Is that what your pastor tells you? There is nothing in our doctrine that says a person has to bow to Joseph Smith or worship him. His whole ministry was devoted to testifying that salvation comes through Jesus Christ and only Jesus Christ. I thought I answered the whole planet thing in the post above. Read it. I receive revelations myself every day, they are filled with (light and knowledge) squared, so I'm more full of it than anyone. And you know I'm telling the truth because I've never told a lie. I'll take your word for it "However, God is no respecter of persons and all are beloved sons and daughters to Him." Except those Christians and Jews who Joseph Smith said were abominations. Unless he was wrong about that, cause he seems to have been wrong a whole bunch. Joseph Smith never said Christians, Jews, or any other people were abominations. He said the creeds of men were an abomination to God. Joseph's desire was to come up into the presence of God and to learn all that he could. He could not subscribe to the creeds that say so far may a man come and no further. Neither can I. "The hieroglyphics were produced and attested to by authorities in the field." No they weren't, I posted a big link to the Mormon curator who tried to get them authenticated but gave up when four out of four real translators told him Joseph Smith's translations were a crock. I guess I missed that link. I'll have a look at it if you wish "I've seen the websites with the supposed facsimile that is supposed to be the original from which Joseph Smith referenced. If that is all you know on the subject then you are woefully uninformed. What did the detractors use to come up with their translation?" Um, they used the same funeral wrappings Joseph Smith used. Of course, there are now literally thousands of funeral casks around, and not one of them has the same book of Abraham wrappings that Joseph Smith sucked out of thin air. "What was their translation" was my question. "2. He never lost the gold plates and there were many witnesses to them as you will find in the preface to the Book of Mormon. Those who became disaffected never recanted their witness of the plates." So, where are they now? They must be worth billions. I guess they got made into the graven images you have on top your Temples. They were taken again by the angel Moroni after the witnesses were allowed to see an bare record of them. "3.He did not lose a "first translation of the Book of Mormon". The manuscript for the first book within that set of scriptures, the "Book of Lehi" was taken and never returned." That would be called "losing it" in anything other than Mormon speak. Mormon speak let's you always be right, unless you are wrong, in which case there's always a new revelation to make up for the mess you've created. No, that would be called like someone taking the Book of Genesis and not returning it. Not like taking the whole book "4.Do you know what Moses and the Priests of Arron called the Urim and Thummim? That's in the Old Testament, if you've never read it." I sure do know what they are, cause I have them right here. And I'm using them to translate the hieroglyphics I found wrapped around the imported computer parts I just got from Taiwan. They say "Joseph Smith not able translate bean soup". I'm guessing you are not familiar with the Old Testament then. I was going to use my secret decoder ring to translate my secret hieroglyphics, but the plastic broke and I lost it - oooops, I mean it was taken from me, the Prophet Fast Coyote never loses any sacred paraphenalia (unless the cops are headed my way, in which case it was a friend's). "7.He did not run a bank in Kirtland and if you were familiar at all with U.S. history you would know that there was a national bank failure at the time, which happened to affect Kirtland. Kirtland was did not start it, was not the center of it, and certainly was insignificant as to the national scope of the crisis." Then you must feel pretty stupid seeing as how Joseph Smith signed a $3 bill from Kirtland bank. Who cares what the number of the bill is? Do you see many $2 bills around anymore? Is Confederate currency legal tender anywhere? I don't get your point. "And yes, Joseph Smith is a prophet of God. Gordon B. Hinkley is the living prophet at this moment. Revelation has not ceased, nor the ministering of angels, nor Christ's intimate dealings and direction with His Apostles. The heavens are not shut and yes, the Book of Mormon is the word of God and testifies that Jesus is the Christ, the only begotten of the Father in the flesh." With all those saintly prophets running around, it's pretty hard to say that I couldn't just as well be a prophet. I think the BOM has been superceded by the Book of Zelph, look it up, it's highly enlightening. whatever
2,594 posted on 05/15/2007 8:30:33 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: MHGinTN

He asked.


2,595 posted on 05/15/2007 8:31:27 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: Saundra Duffy

“Harry Reid is a MINO (Mormon in Name Only). It’s so embarrassing.”

I am privy to a lot of his quasi mafia and land deal shenanigans, he is true dirt.


2,596 posted on 05/15/2007 8:32:30 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote

The scriptures were from the Revelation of John. Do you believe in the Bible? Maybe not. Just asking. What church do yo go to?


2,597 posted on 05/15/2007 8:33:04 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: Bonaparte

I belive I was fair. Now, why doesn’t everyone just say what church they go to?


2,598 posted on 05/15/2007 8:34:30 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: Bonaparte
I believe I was fair. Now, why doesn’t everyone just say what church they go to?
2,599 posted on 05/15/2007 8:34:53 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: FastCoyote

Again I ask, what church do you go to?


2,600 posted on 05/15/2007 8:36:14 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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