They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today

Saundra Duffy

[MHGinTN]

Do you have to prove yourself worthy of that Grace? And if so, how?

[Utah Girl]

No. Jesus Christ atoned for all of mankinds sins.

[MHGinTN]

BTW, the Utah win was thrilling. They tied it up in the last seconds then won by ten in overtime. Fischer’s return was inspired 9one shot, swish, three pointer)! And the friendship of those guys, Golden State and Utah was inspirational. It shows these great athletes have a greater focus than just playing a game. Sir Charles made it plain that their is a fraternity which he values greatly. That guy is one of the greats, too. Alabamians are proud of Sir Charles.

[Netizen]

Would that be the same Tiny Prophet that swirleth the blue waters?

[MHGinTN]

Amen, m’Lady.

[sevenbak]

Let me help, in Jesus's day the unworthy were not allowed in the temple either. The Jews didn't believe in preaching the gospel to all nations, either. But Jesus sure does.

Worshiping in the temple by early Apostles or other disciples didn’t end with the rending of the veil at Christ’s Crucifixion. The NT has plenty of references to such, well after Christ was gone and the law fulfilled.

The rending of the veil in the holy of holies at the death of Christ was a symbolic opening up of the temple to those outside of levitic lineage, and the fulfillment of the Law of Moses.

[sevenbak]

The tendency to want to rebuild the Temple replicating Solomon's Temple is a human trait to establish the temple of god on earth without the presence of God in it ... the fundamental meaning of heresy.

The LDS temples are not a replica of the Solomon temple, either in form of function. There are similarities (such as the basin supported by 12 oxen – representing the 12 tribes of Israel) but the law of Moses is fulfilled, and any such practices relating to it have no place in the House of the Lord.

[sevenbak]

Those people he kept out were the BRIDES!

I wonder why they had to be virgins if works were not required? For that matter, why did Mary need to be pure and clean. If the grace alone is good enough for us, why not for her?

[sevenbak]

Some might say, controlled, manchurian candidate style.

Direct HIT! You sunk their battleship.

The SS Ronald Reagan just picked up the survivors. My carrier beats your battleship.

(Is this a good time to bring up the vast numbers of LDS that worked intimately with Reagan?)

[sevenbak]

Regardless of whether or not BY was involved, my people from Southern Utah definitely WERE. What is my horse?

It’s that bloody pulp of flesh lying over there with red stained sticks all around it.

[sevenbak]

“Besides, I can depend heavily on the evangelicals to keep him in check!” That’s an interesting perspective I hadn’t thought about.

What would be funny is if He picks a hardcore Evangelical for his running mate. There are many that are supporting him, so finding the right one would be the key. If that were to happen, it would be fun to watch the fallout.

[Netizen]

I love the progression. Restornu calls my grey matter loony without proof, I rebuff restornu with a few facts about me, including not only my IQ but significant other indicators of accomplishment. DU says that’s nothing, he’s smarter than me (and let’s not forget, he is a direct decendent from Abraham and has the genealogy to prove it, though even the Cohens are hardpressed). Then you quote me out of context, saying IQ was the only thing I used to show I am quite mainstream.

That's when I went out to put on the hip boots!

[Colofornian]

Not only that, but Jesus should know that Psalms is NOT part of the law.

Yeah, I know. Since LDS simplify Jesus as simply the "firstborn" in the pre-existence era, I can understand why you think Jesus is easily confused. ("Hey, ya know, if YOU, Net, were lucky, YOU might have been Jesus!" Note for the unitiated in LDS thought: Jesus, as the elder brother of all LDS & all pre-earth spirits, is deemed distinctive in his pre-Savior days only due to simple birth order of literal spirits born to Heavenly Ma & Pa in Kolob...thereby making Jesus only different--prior to his life on earth--to Mormons in degree).

Anyway, the true Jesus, I'm quite sure, could keep both the Mosaic Law and the Psalms quite straight. As for LDS, well, they not only have to...

keep the Mosaic Law,

+ another 350+ commands from the NT;

+ however many more commands are in the BoM;

+ the commands from the 136 sections of the D&C;

+ 70-odd pages of the PoGP;

+ anything the LDS prophet has said or will add under alleged divine direction since April 6, 1830;

+ all the directives & guidelines from 70 general authorities (& accumulative it's more than 70 due to attrition every decade)...these may not always carry the weight of prophetic law, but close enough;

then there's tracking what bishops, mission society, presidents, seminary teachers, institute teachers, missionary school trainers, general conference speakers, authorized LDS writers & HQ pubs...

Whew!!! Is it siesta time yet? Or is my weariness sourced in empathizing with those burdened by a massive spiritual law-based bureaucracy that left the Pharisees in the dust long ago?

[sevenbak]

[[[ The idea that they arrived in the last 3,000 years is a little ridiculous.]]] Yes it is ridiculous, laughably ridiculous.

LDS believe America was peopled long before the Nephites. The Jaredites were here right after the Tower of Babel, and we believe that Adam and his progeny started here as well. Of course this was back before the earth was divided in the days of Nimrod, so who knows what the geography was like then

[Netizen]

Nary a cross to be seen, just a bunch of Gold Baals.

Yep. Graven images, elevated on high and golden like the calf, no less.

[sevenbak]

Oh, I too am perfectly fine with keeping your viewpoint. I am not fine when you proselytize. Then I will be the very vocal counterpoint. Everyone should be able to hear both sides of any argument don't you think?

Color, if you don’t want to hear our doctrines, then stop beating us over the head with them. We’ll go away quietly and you can proselytize to your hearts content, just leave us out of it and we won’t counter.

[sevenbak]

The Smith-based doctrine of eternal marriage converts every person with two mates (Mate 1-their earthly partner now extended into the celestial; and Mate 2 - Christ) into a literal polygamist upon Christ marrying His Church in heaven.

Christ as our mate? We as couples should have an intimate relationship with Him, (as should you and your spouse) but a polygamist relationship with Christ is over the top, even for you!

[sevenbak]

At least the LDS has a promise that there is 2/3 of the Book of Mormon yet to come forth I am sure many of these obvious unanswered clues will get fulfilled!

Does that mean that Mormons are waiting to get a clue? (grin)

Literally, yes, I’m waiting for more. If all your clues are gone, and there are no others, you can’t continue forward in the game. I want all the clues I can get, and I seek truth from whatever source I find it.

[sevenbak]

Thanks! I love that quote from Hippolutus, especially this last part at the end:

you shall resemble Him, inasmuch as you shall have honour conferred upon you by Him. For the Deity, (by condescension,) does not diminish anything of the divinity of His divine7 perfection; having made you even God unto His glory!7

[sevenbak]

well the Bible is full of unanser loose ends!

Yes!

And so the search for clues in this game of life continues…