Posted on 04/25/2007 3:41:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
This is the start of a series of threads that will be used to expose the truth about Rudy Giuliani in his own words and deeds.
Please post all of the quotes, speeches, interview transcripts, video clips, photos, newspaper/magazine articles, reports, records, statistics, NYC budgets, NYC spending, political appointments, gun grabs, connections to the gun control lobby, lawsuits against gun manufacturers, the truth about crime reduction in NYC, private property grabs, asset forfeitures, abuses of office, individual rights trampling, constitution trampling, violations of public trust, violations of the rule of law, national security risks, failures in security preparedness prior to and after 911, corruption, graft, bribes, favors, union dealings, mob dealings, business dealings leveraged through government contracts and contacts, rainmaking for his business partners, connections to US, Middle East or South American oil and energy companies and law firms that have profited and or will profit from Giuliani's government offices especially if he becomes president, war profiteering, his personal and business finances, his train wreck of a private life and lack of character, lack of qualifications for high office, illegal alien sanctuaries, welfare for illegals, pandering to illegals/illegal alien lobby, support for the abortion and gay rights lobbies, NARAL connections and participation, past and current support for McCain-Feingold, connections and dealings with liberal officeholders or the liberal/socialist caucuses/lobbies, etc, etc, etc, that you can find.
We're primarily interested in the words from his own mouth or primary source records and reports of his deeds/misdeeds. All submissions must contain true facts with documentation and links to source documentation and a link to FR thread on the individual item if available.
We do not need to embellish the record. The ugly truth from his own liberal mouth will impeach his credibility and the reader will be able to disqualify the man from consideration for high office based solely on his own words and deeds.
Here's an example entry:
FOX News | Feb 6, 2007 | Hanity and Colmes
http://www.freerepublic.com/^http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250497,00.html
HANNITY: Let me move on. And the issue of guns has come up a lot. When people talk about Mayor Giuliani, New York City had some of the toughest gun laws in the entire country. Do you support the right of people to carry handguns?
GIULIANI: I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms. When I was mayor of New York, I took over at a very, very difficult time. We were averaging about 2,000 murders a year, 10,000...
HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?
GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.
So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.
HANNITY: So you would support the state's rights to choose on specific gun laws?
GIULIANI: Yes, I mean, a place like New York that is densely populated, or maybe a place that is experiencing a serious crime problem, like a few cities are now, kind of coming back, thank goodness not New York, but some other cities, maybe you have one solution there and in another place, more rural, more suburban, other issues, you have a different set of rules.
HANNITY: But generally speaking, do you think it's acceptable if citizens have the right to carry a handgun?
GIULIANI: It's not only -- I mean, it's part of the Constitution. People have the right to bear arms. Then the restrictions of it have to be reasonable and sensible. You can't just remove that right. You've got to regulate, consistent with the Second Amendment.
HANNITY: How do you feel about the Brady bill and assault ban?
GIULIANI: I was in favor of that as part of the crime bill. I was in favor of it because I thought that it was necessary both to get the crime bill passed and also necessary with the 2,000 murders or so that we were looking at, 1,800, 1,900, to 2,000 murders, that I could use that in a tactical way to reduce crime. And I did.
Free Republic thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780940/posts
Rooty and his handlers, the Endless War Hopefuls, pushed filthy Kerik on GWB——salivating at the thought of getting ahold of FBI files and US national security secrets.
This particular cut & paste with respect to the video on Youtube is especially interesting. I posted the thread which had the Rudy Giuliani video on YouTube: “I would like to run on the Democratic line “
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1793570/posts
Video of Rudy Giuliani in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM
And, sure enough, the ENTIRE THREAD was an example of crickets coming from team rudy. Flashbunny was kind enough to write up a transcript of the video and put it on his home page, so I started posting the transcript alongside the video link for those people who have slow connections and might even be afraid of a virus download from Youtube or whatnot.
As I continued to post the transcript, a few people posted to thank me for doing so because the information has been so enlightening.
Now we see that there is this online petition spreading around the internet, and this one example has had 100 social conservatives from Iowa sign it. And yes, parts of it do appear to be a cut & paste from the video transcript that flashbunny posted and that I have been using. So at this very moment, it appears that HUNDREDS OF SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES ARE SIGNING PETITIONS that contain cut&paste material from the stuff I’ve been posting. All because the rudybots didn’t want to respond with substance.
More than 100 Iowans sign Online Peition:
http://theconservativedeclaration.wordpress.com/
Conservatives:
Rudy Giuliani is an unacceptable Republican nominee for President of the United States. He is pro-abortion, pro-partial birth abortion, pro-registration of handguns, and pro-homosexual rights. He is the most liberal Republican candidate for President in our nation’s history.
Conservatives should leave no doubt that we will not support his candidacy under any circumstances. Therefore, we have created the Conservative Declaration of Independence to publicly state our position regarding the Republican Party’s consideration of a liberal as our Presidential nominee.
Please email theconservativedeclaration@hotmail.com to add your name to the list of signers.
Article II Supporting Evidence
Rudolf Giuliani explaining his liberal views:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM
Rudolf Giuliani explaining his position on abortion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDfwXIYUX0
Rudolf Giuliani dressed as female:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8
Interview with gay couple Rudolf Giuliani lived with when Sept 11th occurred:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_2001_Sept_11/ai_78265968
Ban on Partial Birth Abortions:
“No, I do not support that (a ban on partial birth abortion), and I do not see my position on that changing.”
Abortion:
“There must be public funding of abortion for poor women. We cannot deny any woman the right to make her own decision about abortion because she lacks resources. I have also stated that I disagree with President’s Bush’s veto for public funding of abortion.”
Immigration:
“There is not a Mayor or Public Official in this country who is more pro-immigrant than I am.”
Gun Control:
“I am in favor of gun control”
“You know I am in favor of that (registration of all hand guns)”
Gay Rights:
”I support domestic partnership legislation and I signed it.”
Free Speech:
“I am a big supporter of McCain-Feingold and have been for a long time”
Party Loyalty:
”Frankly, I would like to run on all the lines. The liberal line, the conservative line, I would like to run on the Democratic line if I could figure out how to do it.”
You'll have to ping me to more about that some day.
I always figured it was for the power to direct contracts to their buddies.
Rudy Giuliani video on YouTube: “I would like to run on the Democratic line “
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1793570/posts
Video of Rudy Giuliani in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEle
Transcript of video below.
Will the real Rudy show up at CPAC?
Culture of life:
ABC clip:
George Will: “Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?”
Rudy Giuliani: “Yes I believe, I believe it is.”
Cnn Clip December 2, 1999:
Announcer: “Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports.”
Rudy Giuliani : “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing.”
Immigration
CNN clip:
Announcer: “Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.”
Rudy Giuliani: “There isn’t a mayor or a public official in this country that’s more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago.”
Gun control:
CNN clip
Rudy Giuliani: “I’m in favor of gun control”
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: “How about registration of all handguns?”
Rudy Giuliani: “You know I’m in favor of that. I’ve been on your show many times.”
Gay Rights:
CNN Clip:
Announcer: “As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples.”
ABC Clip: “I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it”
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: “So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?”
Rudy Giuliani: “I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone’s sexual orientation.”
First Amendment:
ABC Clip
Cokie Roberts: “Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?”
Rudy Giuliani: “Yes, I’m a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time.”
Party Loyalty:
ABC Clip:
Rudy Giuliani: “Frankly George, I’d like to run on all the lines. I’d like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I’d like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it.”
Conservative Values:
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: “Whether it’s gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues.”
Rudy Giuliani: “Well then maybe the other side should stop the ‘He’s part of the vast right wing conspiracy’.”
Welcome To CPAC, Rudy!
End clip.
"Most of [President] Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine."
--Rudolph Giuliani, New York Post, Jun 8, 1999 (restating RWG quote from 1996 )
"I don't think tonight's result is tragic, I guess because I'm not that partisan a person ... I think President Clinton is a good man, he's a very decent man, and the country has run pretty well."
--Rudolph Giuliani, commenting on Bob Dole's loss in the 1996 presidential election. New York Times, Nov 7, 1996
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Ellery had an intriguing quote used as a tagline: (I don’t remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/replies?c=2480
To: Kevmo
Thanks! I have more research to do — I read one reference to NYC synagogue firebombings during Giuliani’s tenure, but I haven’t had time to follow up on it. The picture that is emerging when Giuliani was confronted with a terrorist attack on NYC is of a mayor who tended to deny a terrorism motive, and prosecuted the attack as a stand-alone crime (rather than what they were: part of an interconnected war the Islamofascists were waging against us). He rejected the idea that these murderous Islamofascists were basically being encouraged and deployed by a larger community of global Islamofascists (some of these communities operated right in NYC), and instead took pains to insist that Islmofascist communities as a whole were in no way responsible for the actions of an individual attacker. This is the action of a crimefighter, not a warfighter.
Even when he later called something terrorism, or broke up a terrorist plot, he didn’t connect the dots back to a concerted war against us — he just kept swatting at flies.
Even your tagline is intriguing... what’s the context of it?
Here’s the background — Giuliani argued in favor of collecting DNA from all newborns. More troubling to me than the issue itself is that the statement shows that this former prosecuter (who should absolutely innately understand how the Constitution works) thinks that the Constitution “gives” us a limited number of rights, that we have no rights beyond that, and everything else is fair game for government intrustion. In fact, as you probably know, the Constitution limits government power, not our freedoms. As Reagan said: “Almost all the world’s constitutions are documents in which governments tell the people what their privileges are. Our Constitution is a document in which ‘We the people’ tell the government what it is allowed to do. ‘We the people’ are free.” Giuliani lacks this most basic understanding.
Here’s are the links:
Support for collecting DNA from every newborn —
While not actually proposing it here, he defends the idea (and demonstrates a truly flawed view of how the Constitution works in the process): http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE5DF103DF934A25751C1A96E958260
Key excerpt: When asked whether all children should have DNA tests at birth, the Mayor said: ‘’I don’t know that that’s the proposal, but I would have no problem with that, or fingerprinting all children. We go through a massive effort to try to fingerprint large numbers of children’’ now, he said, ‘’so in case they are lost they can be found again or in case if they are kidnapped they can be found again. There is absolutely no reason why people should be afraid of being identified.’’
-snip-
‘’It’s not invasive,’’ the Mayor said. ‘’It doesn’t invade any right of privacy. You don’t have a right not to be identified. I don’t remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified.’’
Later, he does propose that the state legislature mandate collection of DNA from all newborns:
http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/11/32617
Key excerpt: Many experts believe the FBI’s database will be expanded in the future. The International Association of Police Chiefs has asked Congress to require DNA samples from anyone arrested, and New York City mayor Rudolph Giuliani has requested that the state legislature require DNA samples from every newborn baby.
2,480 posted on 04/22/2007 12:32:37 PM PDT by ellery (I don’t remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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You’re correct - I am not a part of anyone - I am myself.
Bernie Kerik was (and is) a great man.He made some poor choices - yes - but to characterize him as you are attempting to do?
Is wrong.
The reference was 3 quotes from Rudy, with the context in which he said them. Only one context had anything negative, this reference: his best man and brother working for an allegedly mob-connected company
That statement was a simple statement of fact. There was an allegation, Rudy was ASKED about it, and gave the quote given.
If Rudy wanted, he could have answered all three of those questions with "Stop smearing a good man", but he didn't, he gave these quotes.
Should we not listen to a candidate when they speak?
Did you notice that, after a several months where the monthly average for Rudy was in the mid-30% range, his APRIL average is now below 30%, with only ONE above-30% number in the month?
It now appears that the 33% from last week was the outlier, and Rudy’s numbers HAVE dropped by about 8%.
I will note that when MY local law enforcement offers this to us, they take the prints, scan them in along with a picture and identifying information we give them, and generate a WALLET CARD with the picture, info, and fingerprint.
They give us the card, and DESTROY THE RECORD.
Only a fool would give the police their children's fingerprints to put on a national file.
I noticed today that Rush Limbaugh has said:
“Rudy is separating himself from the pack” - referring to the GOP candidates.
That from Rush Limbaugh - the liberal himself.....
Yes, he was talking about what Rudy said about democrats and terrorism, and he noted it was a way Rudy separates himself from the pack.
Of course, Duncan Hunter could say the same thing and nobody would even cover it.
Except Duncan wouldn’t say republicans will stop a new 9/11, because that is silly.
You’re right - Duncan Hunter is as tough as nails.
It’s a shame he just can’t seem to get a foot hold.
Culture of personality and celebrity makes it hard for him.
Good man - nice son he has also.
Patriots.
It now appears that the 33% from last week was the outlier, and Rudy’s numbers HAVE dropped by about 8%.
If his numbers keep dropping at that rate, he should be just where he should be by the end of summer.
If his numbers keep dropping at that rate, he should be just where he should be by the end of summer."
quoting freedomfiter2 from post #198
u might listen right now to that notorious lefty Sean Hannity on now with Rudy.
just as you might have heard that other lefty Rush citing Rudy several hours ago
they may be part of the vast left wing conspiracy
the Dems are jumping all over Rudy. they understand the electoral reality ... and not what one wishes they were
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