Well 2 out of 4 ain't bad, in my book. But of course Rudy is being savaged in these threads as worse than the anti-christ.
I've said it a dozen times here. If you oppose Rudy on the positions, I respect you. But if you think Rudy is a 'baby-killing, homo-loving, gun-grabbing, cross-dressing' etc, then I, personally, don't really want to discuss anything with you, and I'll go somewhere that I can find a calm, reasoned debate where they stick to the positions and debate those without flames.
The flaming is an unfortunate byproduct of politics. Since the dawn of time, I reckon. By all sides, as well.
Jim Robinson thinks that Giuliani is a 'baby-killing, homo-loving, gun-grabbing, cross-dressing' liberal and has said so MANY times. This is his forum.
Now, was that an opus? Because I smell the strong smell of opus in the air around you.
Dominic, we’ve disagreed already, okay. So on my side of the disagreement let me say that anywhere you go for calm and reasoned debate the division will follow. It will be proportional to the effectiveness of whatever group you’ve found. Maybe if you have a invite only, application approved, ruthlessly moderated, pay as you go site, but then you’d have the echo chamber that some of us are afraid will happen here.
Rudy is a ‘baby-killing, homo-loving, gun-grabbing, cross-dressing’ etc. Those are some of his positions. If you don’t think those positions are positions, what exactly do you think positions are? How is it possible for you debate Rudy’s positions, if you refuse to recognize what his positions are?
Are you saying Rudy isn't pro abortion...pro gay rights...and anti 2A??...if those aren't postions...WTF is a position?