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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: FreeReign; rintense
It is the only place on the net that chronicles the activities of the President on a daily basis because the MSM hates him and ignores him if at all possible.

If more Bush haters (both left and right) would actually find out who the man is, it would be better for us all.

rintense started a valuable thing 6 years ago, and it is a testament to her foresight that it still thrives.

2,501 posted on 04/22/2007 12:44:45 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Good job!


2,502 posted on 04/22/2007 12:44:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim,

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSION AND DEDICATION!!

"DAMN FEW OF US LEFT"

2,503 posted on 04/22/2007 12:45:29 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DIVIDE it!)
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To: Reagan Man
And I see you're still a disingenuous , and cowardly, disruptor.
2,504 posted on 04/22/2007 12:45:44 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
“Sending in rudy giuliani is like sending in a player that has on your team’s jersey and a skirt, but scores points for the other team.”

Sorry, they just jump into my head...

2,505 posted on 04/22/2007 12:46:02 PM PDT by stuned_beeber (Quit...Give up...Go home...- Vote Democrat!)
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To: Jim Robinson

A good number on Free Republic,judging by their posts already have.I am not numbered among those.


2,506 posted on 04/22/2007 12:46:22 PM PDT by sport
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To: NinoFan

LOL!


2,508 posted on 04/22/2007 12:46:45 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: Jim Robinson
Conservative BTTT!
2,509 posted on 04/22/2007 12:47:49 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: All

We are halfway to 5.000 posts gang. Keep up the good brawl.


2,510 posted on 04/22/2007 12:48:19 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: skeeter
I guess you didn't read Buckley in those days, eh?

Remember, I was (and still am) a solid Reagan supporter, and I read the things said about him by conservatives in his second term............and fumed.

Accuracy is all I ask. I hope that's not too much for the Reagan-was-perfect-and-every-conservative-loved-him revisionists......

2,511 posted on 04/22/2007 12:48:28 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: La Enchiladita
Because I have enjoyed your posts over the years....

When the struggling Mexican and/or Central American hears and sees friends and relatives 'striking it rich' or enhancing their lives and those of his children by sneaking into the United States, what else would you expect them to do?

In their eyes they have seen overnite economic success and unlimited opportunity over and over again.

The fault squarely falls on the County and State governments that offer sanctuary...NOT with the peaceful immigrant.

Don't hate or despise the immigrant. Hate your elected government officials who actively encourage more of it.

Now lets back to zotting long-time regulars.

Cheers! ;^)

2,512 posted on 04/22/2007 12:48:29 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: GSlob

Well, I thought my other response where I asked you why you didn’t just wait til they were born and kill them yourself with a $1 bullet, saving you another $500, got to the heart of the matter and spoke a language you would understand, but maybe you missed it in all the excitement....


2,513 posted on 04/22/2007 12:49:17 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT; FreeReign

I don’t understand your point. You were the one who wanted names and numbers. Post 2,456. You got them and now your upset? I supplied you with AFC ...he never said anything about a third party just undermining Rudy. But so as not wanting to put words in his mouth I pinged him. He’s pretty capable of making his own points.


2,514 posted on 04/22/2007 12:49:31 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: stuned_beeber

: )


2,515 posted on 04/22/2007 12:51:20 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Blackirish

My point is that I asked for a specific piece of information, the names of people who specifically said they would VOTE for Hillary.

You gave me the name of a person who you say specifically stated they would NOT vote for Hillary.

I don’t understand why you think that was a good response to my query.

It’s like asking you to get me a chocolate milkshake, and you come back and say “here’s the vanilla milkshake you wanted”.


2,516 posted on 04/22/2007 12:52:22 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: M. Thatcher
Rudy defined in his own words:
Archives of Rudolph W. Giuliani, 107th Mayor

Opening Remarks to the N.A.R.A.L. "Champions of Choice" Lunch

The Yale Club, Thursday, April 5th, 2001

As Delivered


Thank you very much for inviting me to say a few words of welcome. This event shows that people of different political parties and different political thinking can unite in support of choice. In doing so, we are upholding a distinguished tradition that began in our city starting with the work of Margaret Sanger and the movement for reproductive freedom that began in the early decades of the 20th century.

As a Republican who supports a woman's right to choose, it is particularly an honor to be here. And I would like to explain, just for one moment, why I believe being in favor of choice is consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. In fact, it might be more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. Because the Republican Party stands for the idea that you have to restore more freedom of choice, more opportunity, more opportunity for people to make their own choices rather than the government dictating those choices. Republicans stand for lower taxation because we believe that people can make better choices with their money than the government will make for them, and that ultimately frees the economy and produces more political freedom. We believe that, yes, government is important, but that the private sector is actually more important in solving our problems.

So it is consistent with that philosophy to believe that in the most personal and difficult choices that a woman has to make with regard to a pregnancy, those choices should be made based on that person's conscience and that person's way of thinking and feeling. The government shouldn't dictate that choice by making it a crime or making it illegal.

I think that's actually a much more consistent position. Many Republicans support that position, but you don't hear that as often. For example, in a recent poll by American Viewpoint, 65 percent of Republicans supported changing the plank in the Republican platform that calls for a constitutional ban on abortion. That's 6.5 out of every 10 Republicans. And over 80 percent of Republicans believe that the decision with regard to an abortion should be made by a woman, her doctor, and her family rather than dictated by the government.

[Applause]

In any case, I just wanted you to know that many of my fellow Republicans stand with you on this issue. So I thank you, I thank NARAL for taking the lead in establishing freedom of choice for all of us, and as the Mayor of New York City, I thank you for being here in New York City.

# # #
http://www.nyc.gov/html/rwg/html/2001b/champlunch.html

2,517 posted on 04/22/2007 12:52:22 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

And with that, I’m out of here. I can’t waste any more time as Rudy supporters look to drain the life out of those of us who are conservatives.


2,518 posted on 04/22/2007 12:53:23 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: KenmcG414
"To accuse Giuliani of being socialist is preposterous. All one has to do is look what Giuliani did in NYC to bring it back to life."

Wrong!

All one has to do is listen to the words that come out of his disgusting mouth. He says a woman has a constitutional right to abortion and therefore the federal government should fund abortions for poor women. Not only is that the most evil thing that any one could suggest, but it definitely IS socialist! The man is a socialist butcher plain and simple and bears nothing but utter contempt for the constitution and individual rights.

2,519 posted on 04/22/2007 12:53:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: umgud

The lib RINOS won big in ‘06 didn’t thet?


2,520 posted on 04/22/2007 12:53:50 PM PDT by sport
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