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MAYOR GIULIANI ADDRESSES CITIZENS CRIME COMMISS.; CALLS FOR UNIFORM NATIONAL GUN CONTROL LAWS ('97)
NYC.gov ^ | march 6, 1997 | Rudy Giuliani

Posted on 04/12/2007 8:16:33 AM PDT by pissant

Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani today addressed a breakfast meeting of the Citizens Crime Commission on the issue of gun control. In his address, the Mayor reiterated his call for a national uniform standard of gun licensing requirements. "Yesterday, President Clinton outlined his proposals for more stringent federal gun licensing requirements," Mayor Giuliani said. "His proposals include: prohibiting non-citizens from buying guns; requiring proof of residency, including a photo I.D. and a utility bill in the buyer's name; making 'cop killer', or teflon-coated, armor-piercing bullets illegal; and requiring child safety locks on the weapons of all Federal officials to prevent these guns from ever winding up in the hands of children."

"I applaud the President's proposals, and I will support them any way I can," the Mayor continued. "I only hope that he is right, and that Congress is finally ready to recognize that the vast majority of Americans want more gun control. It makes sense. It is time. And we can no longer let special interests dominate this vitally important issue."

"We in New York and other places are working very hard to control crime and especially to reduce criminal incidents involving guns," the Mayor pointed out. "In New York City, we have seen more than a 50 percent decrease in shootings since 1993, but to complete the job we have started, we need the help of other states, and of the Federal government, to promulgate more rigorous gun purchasing requirements nationwide. Then we won't have 90 percent of our City's guns being brought in from other localities to commit heinous crimes like the tragedy at the Empire State Building."

"I know many people argue that keeping and bearing arms is a federally guaranteed right as stated in the Second Amendment of the Constitution," the Mayor said. "But even in the Second Amendment, it refers to firearms in the context of a well regulated militia, and well regulated is what we are trying to accomplish. Just as unimpeded interstate travel is constitutionally guaranteed, we reserve the right to regulate who can or cannot drive an automobile. We must also sensibly regulate gun purchases to preserve the safety of all Americans."

In his speech, the Mayor alluded to some compelling facts about where guns on New York streets come from.

"A recently released study indicates that of 2,225 guns confiscated in New York City, more than 92 percent of the guns were originally purchased out of state and more than 60 percent of them came from five states -- Virginia, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina and Georgia," the Mayor said. "And when looking at the FBI Total Index Crimes List, which shows the number of crimes on a per capita basis for cities with a population of more than 100,000, it is not a coincidence that four of the top ten are in Florida, and six are in the South, where gun control laws are very lax. New York City, where requirements for purchasing a gun are much more rigorous, ranks 144th on that list."

Here are other highlights of the Mayor's address:

"The man who committed this despicable act of hatred and violence on top of the Empire State Building came to the United States on December 24, 1996. First he arrived in New York and then traveled to Melbourne, Florida where he checked into a cheap motel. Using the hotel address, he was able to obtain a photo I.D. card, and that was all he needed to buy a gun -- a .380 Beretta, capable of firing 14 rounds in four or five seconds. Because in Florida, although they have relatively strict regulations to obtain a gun license, gun licenses are only necessary for carrying concealed weapons. A license is not required to buy a gun -- all that is required is a photo I.D. In private transactions, at gun shows, or when purchasing a gun from a private individual, there is nothing else required."

"Ironically, if Mr. Hassan Kamal had wanted to buy a car, or even drive a car legally, he would not have been able to because in Florida obtaining a driver's license is much more difficult than buying a gun. In fact, getting a driver's license requires several forms of official identification proving residency. It requires a written test and a road test, and a thorough background investigation is done to determine if the applicant has a history of driving recklessly, or unlawfully. These driver's license requirements are fairly uniform from state to state, which demonstrates that from region to region, a vast majority of Americans accept that driving an automobile is potentially very dangerous and requires sensible regulations. However, guns kill many more people than automobiles do, even though there are many more cars than guns."

"I think one of the reasons that the procedures for obtaining a driver's license and buying and operating a car have become uniform and sensible is that insurance is required for automobiles. The insurance industry has standardized what is necessary to get insurance. Cars must be registered and trackable. Cars are required to undergo periodic safety inspections in many states. Driving records are computerized and traceable and driver's licenses must be periodically renewed. Perhaps we should require insurance for handguns. If liability insurance were required to purchase and own a handgun, you better believe the insurance industry would promulgate a pretty rigorous licensing and purchasing process to control the risk."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: banglist; giuliani; rudy; rudyonguns; stoprudy2008
Well, well, well. See if we can spot the lies he told Hannity a few weeks back:

HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?

GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.

So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.

1 posted on 04/12/2007 8:16:36 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

LOL! There is so much out there, isn’t there? Giuliani has become a caricature of a candidate.


2 posted on 04/12/2007 8:17:44 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: pissant

Keep ‘em comin’! Yer doin’ great! Maybe our compatriots will come to their senses some day...


3 posted on 04/12/2007 8:19:31 AM PDT by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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To: TommyDale

He’s making Lurch look like an honest man.


4 posted on 04/12/2007 8:19:38 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

So what?

Giulani may be anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, anti-secure borders, anti-stict constructionist Supreme Court, more liberal than Lieberman and may not know whether Iran or N. Korea is farther ahead in the nuclear race, but does that mean that conservatives cannot support him?


5 posted on 04/12/2007 8:21:56 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: pgyanke

I doubt they will, unless he is convicted of an axe murder on a Rutgers B-Ball player.

But the other fellers running against him just need to type in Rudy and do a keyword search, and his entire lib histroy will be there for them to pick apart.

Just doing my part to save the GOP, despite itself.


6 posted on 04/12/2007 8:22:01 AM PDT by pissant
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To: TommyDale

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73SsNFgBO4


7 posted on 04/12/2007 8:23:28 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Mr. Brightside

LOL. you are mixing conservatives with republicans. The NE is full of like minded GOPers. How else to explain Chafee, Shays, Collins, Snowe, Pataki, Jeffords, Spectre, etc etc


8 posted on 04/12/2007 8:23:57 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Mr. Brightside
"Giulani may be anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, anti-secure borders, anti-stict constructionist Supreme Court, more liberal than Lieberman and may not know whether Iran or N. Korea is farther ahead in the nuclear race, but does that mean that conservatives cannot support him?"

It means THIS conservative cannot!

9 posted on 04/12/2007 8:50:32 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: Dick Bachert

Nice video clip!

I would like to be face to face with one of these gun grabbers, and challenge them to come and take my weapon away from me, personally. They always send their police or their armies to do their dirty work.


10 posted on 04/12/2007 8:54:28 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: Mr. Brightside

“Giulani may be anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, anti-secure borders, anti-stict constructionist Supreme Court, more liberal than Lieberman and may not know whether Iran or N. Korea is farther ahead in the nuclear race, but does that mean that conservatives cannot support him?”


Sure does! Hell, if Hilary wins maybe she’ll bring the silverware back!


11 posted on 04/12/2007 8:55:30 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: pissant
MAYOR GIULIANI ADDRESSES CITIZENS CRIME COMMISS.; CALLS FOR UNIFORM NATIONAL GUN CONTROL LAWS ('97)

This can't be true. Rudy boosters have repeatedly assured me that Rudy is in favor of states rights.

While you're at it, another glass of refreshing kool-aid, too.

12 posted on 04/12/2007 8:56:53 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: pissant

Keep ‘em coming! I think the will to survive has been bred out of NYC residents. Obviously they will never understand the importance of the 2nd ammendment because they have never experienced that right. Whats the old saying “That you cannot miss what you never had”?


13 posted on 04/12/2007 8:57:17 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: pissant

THANK YOU THANK YOU so much for posting these kinds of threads that shed real light on the dangers of Rudy.

The Rudybots here are getting out of hand and yet the FReeper polls clearly show that Rudy ain’t gonna get it with Most FREEPERS!!!


14 posted on 04/12/2007 8:58:28 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Joe Brower

One for the bang list.


15 posted on 04/12/2007 9:26:11 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Halgr
The Rudybots here are getting out of hand and yet the FReeper polls clearly show that Rudy ain’t gonna get it with Most FREEPERS!!!

Yeah, but because Guiliani is currently leading in meaningless name-recognition polls some 10 months before the first primary, we should all pack it in and support him because he's a "winner".

(Do I need a </SARCASM> tag here?)

16 posted on 04/12/2007 9:29:14 AM PDT by kevkrom (Al Gore is to Global Warming as L. Ron Hubbard is to Scientology)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Giulani may be anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, anti-secure borders, anti-stict constructionist Supreme Court, more liberal than Lieberman and may not know whether Iran or N. Korea is farther ahead in the nuclear race, but does that mean that conservatives cannot support him?

Of course it doesn't, after all He's the only one that can beat Hillery! ;)

17 posted on 04/12/2007 11:12:43 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: dirtboy
“While you’re at it, another glass of refreshing kool-aid, too.”

They’ve gotten the mix down so well you can barely taste the mind-numbing “vitamins”....

Try the lime flavor. ;)

18 posted on 04/12/2007 4:45:26 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: beltfed308
“I think the will to survive has been bred out of NYC residents. “

They certainly aren’t citizens.... they’re SUBJECTS.

19 posted on 04/12/2007 4:46:09 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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