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Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone
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| 7:18 PM ET Mar 28, 2007
| John Dvorak
Posted on 03/29/2007 10:54:25 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: discostu
I'm not convinced that means they're going to fail, but it's not going to be the coast they had with the iPod.
Obviously Apple doesn't think that it will be, either - their initial target is to capture only 10% of the market.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:38:35 AM PDT
by
highball
("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
To: Uncledave
Apple won't market this to the corporate marketThen it will hardly replace or compete with Blackberry. Nor will it compete with Windows phones for folks who want to display spreadsheets and such.
I personally have trouble imagining the need for this, but I was in a phone store when someone came in to buy a Windows phone. I guess the attraction is that someone else is paying for it.
My personal idea of a phone is something that fits in my shirt pocket and becomes unnoticeable.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:39:38 AM PDT
by
js1138
(The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
To: Publius Valerius
How much is the iPhone going to cost? The Treo retails for something like $650. The iPhone is $1300? The iPhone goes for 599 or 699 depending on the memory.
The most expensive Palm that turn up in my quick search was 299. I'll search again.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:40:28 AM PDT
by
The_Victor
(If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
To: Publius Valerius
They're talking like $500 (that's with a contract) for the iPhone. The Treo 750 is like $300 or $400, and I just got a 650 for $100.
Now if I could only get it to stop re-booting when I get calls from certain old-style landlines.
-Eric
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:40:42 AM PDT
by
E Rocc
(Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
To: milwguy
Iphone will be announced within two months and it will rock the cellphone world. Say bye to your Blackberry, RIM and PALM will be history when Apple announces their phone. I agree. Believe the hype.
The iPhone is going to be bigger than the iPod.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:43:11 AM PDT
by
Aquinasfan
(When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
To: The_Victor
Apple doesn't sell anything that doesn't have a very high margain compared to the rest of the industry. They don't risk their reputation because it took a while for the iPod to really take off as well. It will be given a grace period to start where the 1st adopters will pay a premium to be, well..... the 1st to have one. Rev 2 of the iPhone will be much more attainable and more feature rich. Those who wait will enjoy thier 2nd generation iPhones, and the industry will bow to the Apple steamrolling of the industry.
This will also be acheived when Apple creates an iTunes like setup where people go to apple to buy apps to enhance their iPhones, since it's running a version of OS X.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:44:06 AM PDT
by
SengirV
To: js1138
My personal idea of a phone is something that fits in my shirt pocket and becomes unnoticeable
Even better if it can't receive a signal on a weekend or holiday.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:45:17 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
To: The_Victor
Even the most expensive Palm is ~1/2 the cost of the iPhone. That's a good point, and price will be decisive, but I don't think so. Just IMHO.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:46:33 AM PDT
by
Aquinasfan
(When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
To: milwguy
...Say bye to your Blackberry, RIM and PALM...Ummm, I don't own 'em :)
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:47:03 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
To: HEY4QDEMS
That feature is called the off button.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:47:16 AM PDT
by
js1138
(The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
To: discostu
I understand margins are low in the cell phone industry in general. My point is that if Apple is charging over double what other equivalent devices cost, and still doesn't have any higher margin, they've got a big problem.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:49:42 AM PDT
by
Turbopilot
(iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
To: guinness4strength
My phone, which has been on the market for a year, has integrated wi-fi. It's far from the only one available.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:50:30 AM PDT
by
Turbopilot
(iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
To: Publius Valerius
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:51:29 AM PDT
by
The_Victor
(If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
That's a good point, and price will may be decisive, but I don't think so. Just IMHO.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:52:27 AM PDT
by
Aquinasfan
(When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
To: The_Victor
One question, besides the fact that Dvorak is never right.
Is Apple going to release a server app that forwards Exchange messages to their Iphones like Blackberry has done so you can basically respond back and forth like you were at your desk?
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:53:09 AM PDT
by
Lx
(Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
To: MARKUSPRIME
On launch day eh? You buying the $500 or the $600 version? And will you be signing up for the $50/mo or the $80/month 2 year mandatory AT&T wireless plan that goes with it?
To: Lx
Is Apple going to release a server app that forwards Exchange messages to their Iphones like Blackberry has done so you can basically respond back and forth like you were at your desk? If they want to compete, they'd better.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:58:15 AM PDT
by
The_Victor
(If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
To: The_Victor
Ease of use looks like a big plus for the iPhone. Actually, there are so many features on the iPhone, or recent "smart phones" that it's almost a misnomer to call them a "phone".
Security might be another big plus for the iPhone. Windows-based smart phones have the advantage of being open systems, with hundreds of third-party programs, etc. The downside is that these phones are more vulnerable to malware than the locked-down iPhone will be.
To: The_Victor
Dvorak is an underappreciated national treasure. Simply by taking the opposite of whatever he says, you can be right more often than the wisest sage.
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posted on
03/29/2007 12:08:59 PM PDT
by
steve-b
(It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
To: The_Victor
I finally bought into the cellphone thing last week, catching up with my wife and daughter. However, I discovered that while her less expensive KRAZR phone can play music like crazy using Moterola's simple Digital Audio Player, my phone is cursed with Itunes.
I bought a one-gig memchip for my new RAZR phone, and all I wanted to do was load a sizable chunck of my own MP3 collection in there. Not only did I find I had to buy additional software just to use the phone's USB to talk to my computer, the dammnable ITunes player won't let me load more than 100 songs, even though my memory is only 1/3 full. No way, no how. The Itunes people crippled my phone so that when their Iphone comes out, it won't be competition in any way, and I can't find a patch that works on my V3i RAZR that will get around it.
So, the heck with you, you arrogant, pompous, elitists at Apple. Let the bottled water crowd have your stinking name-brand phones. Do NOT buy a phone with Itunes, no matter what you do!
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posted on
03/29/2007 12:11:03 PM PDT
by
50sDad
(Cultural Diversity means never having to say "I don't fit in.")
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