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Giuliani not fit for the White House: poll (Go Rudy!!)
New York Business ^ | March 21, 2007 | Kira Bindrim

Posted on 03/21/2007 5:04:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

A majority of respondents to a Crain's online poll agree with columnist Alair Townsend, who wrote in this week's issue that former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani doesn't have the temperament to be an effective president.

Ms. Townsend wrote that, while she had voted for the former mayor three times, she would not be casting a fourth vote for him, criticizing his "stick-in-your-eye" style. Ms. Townsend said that his strong personality would not translate well when it comes to dealing with international leaders and Congress.

About 70% of the 784 respondents to the Crain's poll agree that Mr. Giuliani's argumentative temperament makes him a poor candidate for the White House.

"Rudy does not have the ability to work with others. It is his way or no way," wrote poll respondent Elaine Walsh. "The decisions he made as mayor were not in the best interests of New York City and on Sept. 10, 2001, his days were numbered and he was leaving with a poor record."

Another respondent worries that Mr. Giuliani's aggressive demeanor would do little to bring about much-needed change in Washington.

"If there's one thing we should have learned from the current administration, it's the tragic risks we face when our leaders fail to listen to divergent views," wrote Bill Melville, in survey comments. "For the sake of the nation, we need to get as far from the 'my way or the highway' thinking we're now mired in as possible. Unfortunately, Rudy won't get us there."

About 30% of respondents say that Mr. Giuliani's style would be well-suited for the White House.

"Apparently the ultra liberals are running this poll and feel that Mayor Giuliani is not the man," wrote poll respondent Joseph DiMauro. "I feel differently because he knows how to make decisions in a very hard world filled with tough people."

The results come after a poll earlier this month showed a majority of respondents were concerned about comments made by Mr. Giuliani's son. Fifty-three percent of respondents to that poll said the statements, which revealed an estranged father-son relationship, would renew concerns about Mr. Giuliani's personal life and could damage his presidential ambitions.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: flashbunny
So that leaves you with school choice. Whoopee. That overrides all his liberalism!

Not really. He opposed school choice and got in bed with the teachers' unions most of the time he was in office. So he did very little for the school choice movement. Now, he claims to have learned his lesson. Well, maybe. But it's not like he was a principled and effective leader in the school choice movement.
181 posted on 03/21/2007 12:23:15 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: from occupied ga

Your statement about Clinton is not only false but irrelevant even if true. To anyone following politics Clinton was known as far back as the late 70s. He started forming the FoB team which led to the White House. He was also pumped throughout the 80s as a comer. Then he was given the keynote address at the RAT convention.

But even IF true. The media was HAPPY to assist him to win the Presidency. That will NOT happen with a Republican unknown.


183 posted on 03/21/2007 12:24:18 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: flashbunny

Wait till Fred becomes a real candidate and I am sure you will find plenty not to like about the man.


184 posted on 03/21/2007 12:26:08 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: George W. Bush

I remember reading something from the teacher's union from back when he first ran that he was against school choice. Then I hear the pro-school choice claim but nothing really to back it up.


185 posted on 03/21/2007 12:27:07 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

So I take it that since you couldn't find anything to back up your claim your post is a tacit admission your assertion was incorrect?


186 posted on 03/21/2007 12:30:27 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: flashbunny

"...take issue...have trouble with..." this is not the same as saying they will not vote for the man. They may "take issue" with Hillary or Obama EVEN MORE.

Where did you get the idea that voters as a whole know a great deal about the candidates? They obviously do NOT. And they know as MUCH or MORE about Rudy as they do about any of them. And they also know they LIKE the man which is probably more important than any other factor.


187 posted on 03/21/2007 12:30:43 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Pox

I don't do semantics. Apparently you have an exalted opinion of Rudyphilic FReepers to believe they have the power to "annoint" anyone.


188 posted on 03/21/2007 12:32:00 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"Where did you get the idea that voters as a whole know a great deal about the candidates?"

The ones who vote in primaries are generally more informed than the ones who vote in the general election. Those are the one who will determine whether rudy gets the GOP nod, not people called randomly on the phone.

Or didn't you know that?


189 posted on 03/21/2007 12:32:19 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for posting this.


190 posted on 03/21/2007 12:32:24 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: flashbunny

You assume way too much.


191 posted on 03/21/2007 12:32:52 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rudy is a lecherous control freak who grandstanded on the arts issue as he banged his mistress and appeared at gay rights events. His closest "religious adviser" was a priest he had gone to high school with, on the liberal wing of the Church, who was later busted for "inappropriate conduct" with another man.


192 posted on 03/21/2007 12:34:11 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values!)
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To: flashbunny
I remember reading something from the teacher's union from back when he first ran that he was against school choice. Then I hear the pro-school choice claim but nothing really to back it up.

Only in his last 2.5 years as mayor did he show any support for vouchers or school choice. Even then, the amount he proposed to cover school choice tuition costs was insignificant and would fall into the category of experimental, not a real program for all students. At best, Giuliani was a dabbler, not a doer, in school choice.

Via Wikipedia:
In May 1999, Mayor Giuliani advocated in favor of education vouchers, proposing to allocate several million dollars to allow poor children attending poor-performing public schools to attend private schools.[21] In February 2007 reaffirmed his support for "school choice". However, he said his goal was not to end the American public school system. "I would not destroy it. I would revive it, reform it, and change it."[2]

193 posted on 03/21/2007 12:36:35 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
Oh, just form a line already.

I am already at the head of the long line. Proudly.

194 posted on 03/21/2007 12:37:35 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: flashbunny
There have been other polls that report the same thing. People don't know the substance right now, they know the name and their perceptions they have in their head. That's a fact.

I've listed substance. You choose to twist it, ignore it or dismiss it.

195 posted on 03/21/2007 12:37:36 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: flashbunny; cva66snipe; EternalVigilance
(<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)

Excellent anti-liberal graphics!

196 posted on 03/21/2007 12:37:46 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"stick-in-your-eye"
197 posted on 03/21/2007 12:38:05 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Your statement about Clinton is not only false

Not at all false. The average man on the street never heard of Clinton prior to the Dem primaries. You said

To anyone following politics Clinton was known as far back...

This is your qualifier, "For anyone following politics" the vast majority of voters don't follow politics. 90% of them couldn't name their two senators and their Kongressman.

The media was HAPPY to assist him to win the Presidency. That will NOT happen with a Republican unknown.

Again you're only half right. The media won't assist ANY Republican known or unknown. The media is the propaganda arm of the Democratic party regardless of who's running.

I don't know where you stand on Julie Annie, but as far as I'm concerned he's just as poisonous as Hillary. If you have to become your enemy to win, what have you won?

198 posted on 03/21/2007 12:38:34 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: flashbunny

Those who vote in the primaries are more likely to have a conviction of who they want to run but there are VERY few voters who know anything other than the latest sound bite or slogan about a candidate. All they want to know is does the candidate claim to believe what they think they believe.

In some cases it is MUCH worse. They may even KNOW that the candidate is a crook but don't care since he is THEIR crook. How many voters know that Maxine Waters, John Conyers and a host of other democrats are confessed socialists? In Mass they know that Teddy let a girl drown. Do they care? Hell no.


199 posted on 03/21/2007 12:38:39 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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