Posted on 03/18/2007 1:31:23 AM PDT by JohnSheppard
The same Beltway experts who declared Sen. John McCain of Arizona the GOP front-runner, even as he under-polled fellow presidential contender Rudolph Giuliani, now parrot equally dodgy concepts. When Republicans meet “the real Rudy,” they will abandon New York’s former mayor like cattle fleeing a burning barn. Then, the wobbly Washington wisdom continues, Giuliani’s three marriages, and his less-than-solidly-right-wing views on gays, guns and gametes will torpedo his buoyant presidential hopes.
These seers now detect unhappiness with the GOP aspirants. They cite a recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll in which 26 percent of Republican primary voters were dissatisfied with Giuliani, McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, among others. However, 56 percent called these choices satisfactory. This mirrors the 57 percent of conservative Republicans who preferred Giuliani, versus 31 percent for McCain. More broadly, Republicans backed Giuliani by 38 percent to McCain’s 24, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s 10, Romney’s 8, and 2 percent each for Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.
But what if voters like Giuliani better upon understanding his pre-9/11 performance? Educating Republicans on his complete mayoral record - and soon - may be Giuliani’s best bet for extinguishing the lingering grumbling about his candidacy.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.bostonherald.com ...
And a Giuliani White House wouldn't?
http://www.blogicus.com/archives/rudy_giuliani_is_not_our_man.php
No thanks. You present some good points about the election being affected by events of the recent past, but I don't see that as being so inevitable that I'm going to just lay down my sword without a fight.
If he would run, I think that Fred Thompson could have the charisma to pull a lot of those sheeple votes without demoralizing the base the way Giuliani at the head of the ticket would.
If Bill Clinton had been a Republican, I still would have known he was a liberal, pro homosexual, Constitution twisting liar. I would never have voted for him.
Francis--
How many Mexicans were involved in 911?
Secondly, you're not looking at the numbers correctly. Crime has been consistently falling in all categories in the United States since the early 1990s. In any sample involving millions of people, you're going to find a lot of crimes, including homicides.
But unlike you and John Kerry, I do not see terrorism as a law enforcement issue. Revolutionary Islamists are working literally to end the United States of America, and 911 is simply an opening salvo. They want us all dead. Do you understand the difference?
If you insist on name calling, perhaps I should start calling you Francois Dashwood. It has a nice ring to it.
I'm not excusing anything, and certainly not your boorish behavior.
Throwing out the "traitor" word when discussing a policy matter on a thread is no minor insult. And it's completely unnecessary.
If the illegals protesting in the streets carrying signs glorifying Osama Bin Laden wasn't enough of a clue for you, you are a stupid as he is...
If the illegals protesting in the streets carrying signs glorifying Osama Bin Laden wasn't enough of a clue, you are as stupid as Kerry is...
You would be smart if you read post #75 of this thread and reflected on its significance before writing out one more knee-jerk reaction. The truth is, is that immigrants have always benefitted this country (on net) even though the benefits may not be seen until the third generation has lived out their lives. That is the flat out truth. But deeply rooted fear and hatred prevent people such as yourself from seeing this. Negative attitudes about immigrants have always existed and yet the United States of America has been able to absorb them and even prosper because of them. Check your history, paleocon, you may just learn something if you're willing to open your closed mind for a change.
FYI..Those of us who support Rudy aren't asking you to hold your nose and pull the lever, merely, be willing to listen to him as he asks for, and tries to earn, your vote. Don't forget that we share the concerns and issues that now make you doubt him. Just keep an open mind.
If the illegals protesting in the streets carrying signs glorifying Osama Bin Laden wasn't enough of a clue for you, you are a stupid as he is...
How much have you had to drink this morning?
Rudy will win my vote if it comes to that.
Reason ..... Past presidents actions & results vs Rudy
Jimmy Carter vs Rudy Rudy Wins
Bill Clinton vs Rudy Rudy Wins
Hillary vs Rudy Give me Rudy
I hear you, honestly and I respect your comments.
But
Rudy's position regarding Abortion, the Second Amendment and other blatantly liberal views take me to a place where I don't see how I could ever support his positions....too much to compromise on my part.
I just hope and pray that Fred decides to run or that Duncan gains some traction.
I hear rudy being lifted up by too many republicans and its really very sad that so many would sell out just to defeat the dems.....sorry but I cannot be a part of that.
If you could not see the television last summer because you were on something...
The illegals protesting in the streets carrying signs glorifying Osama Bin Laden wasn't enough of a clue for you...
There you go again, repeating yourself over and over again. Do you have OCD or something or are you just such a blathering fool that you just can't remember that you post the same tripe from one minute to the next?
You want to deny the truth...
If the illegals protesting in the streets carrying signs glorifying Osama Bin Laden wasn't enough of a clue for you...
You want to deny the truth...
If the illegals protesting in the streets carrying signs glorifying Osama Bin Laden wasn't enough of a clue for you...
Run Fred Run!!!!
Rudy in drag doesn't bother me one bit. His RINO beliefs DO.
I would happily, and enthusiatically support Duncan or Fred....but they first have to show me they can generate some support, both financially and in the polls. Our country is at war, facing the greatest danger ever, and I do not believe I can afford to sit out this crucial election. We share the same viewpoints on Life, RKBA, marriage, etc..but national security trumps everything this time out. A dirty bomb detonated in Grand Central station will kill a lot more babies, (and adults) and cause economic devastation to this nation. Rudy understands the national security concerns, even you give him credit for that, and he will appoint stricty constructionist to the court, who will NOT hamper his efforts to fight the terrorists. Those jurists just happen to have views on the social issues that agree with yours..
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