[LiberalBassTurds]

Correction to my post above. Here's the sequence of events...

A surveillance team of six marshals went to the mountains on August 21, 1992 to look for places to station cover teams for the operation. Toward the end of the surveillance mission, one of the Weaver's dogs began to chase three of the marshals. Marshals stationed at an observation post saw Kevin Harris, an associate of Randy Weaver, Weaver, his thirteen year old son Sammy, and Weaver's daughters, follow the dog. All were carrying firearms.

The marshals retreated. As they approached an intersection of trails known as the "Y," they saw Randy Weaver coming down the trail. They identified themselves and told him to halt, but he turned and ran back up the trail. The dog caught up with Deputy Marshal Cooper. He held the dog at bay with his firearm, but did not shoot for fear of provoking the Weavers. An exchange of gunfire occurred moments later, resulting in the death of Deputy Marshal William Degan, Sammy Weaver, and the dog.

According to the marshals, the fire fight began when Degan and Deputy Marshal Cooper rose to identify themselves. Kevin Harris wheeled and fired at Degan with a 30.06 rifle. Cooper returned fire and thought he hit Harris, though he had not. Cooper turned his weapon toward Sammy Weaver, but did not fire.

Deputy Marshal Roderick, who was further down the path, heard a shot from his left. Roderick could not see anyone other than Weaver's dog, which was heading in the direction Randy Weaver had gone. When the first shot was fired, the dog turned its head toward the marshals. Roderick feared that the dog would turn and attack him or lead Weaver, Harris, and the others to the marshals. Roderick fired at the dog, killing him.

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[PhilipFreneau]

>>>"According to the marshals, the fire fight began when Degan and Deputy Marshal Cooper rose to identify themselves..."<<<

This is the first time I have read this sequence of events. It reads like the government trying to cover its behind.

[labette]

Well, I guess YOUR source settles it. /sarcasm

[beltfed308]

On October 26, 1993, Weaver was sentenced to 18 months incarceration, three years probation and a $10,000 fine. The court issued an Order fining the FBI and criticizing it for its failure to produce discovery materials, its failure to obey orders and admonitions of the court, and its indifference to the rights of the defendant and to the administration of justice.

Seems that the FBI personnel should have served 18 months and at least a $10,000 fine. Not the other way around.

[djf]

LOL! The DOJ Ruby Ridge report...

Back about 1997 I got a softcopy of the report in plain text. Took me almost a day to convert it into a nice, formatted, indexed HTML version. My website was even quoted in the Ninth circuit State of Idaho vs. Horiuchi case.

All the versions of the indexed report I've ever seen on the web are ripoffs of my work, I really don't give a hoot, but wish they had at least given me credit...

Memories. The wife coming into my office saying "Dave, you're working way too much. Come to bed"

God I miss that woman.

[the808bass]

The marshals retreated. As they approached an intersection of trails known as the "Y," they saw Randy Weaver coming down the trail. They identified themselves and told him to halt, but he turned and ran back up the trail. The dog caught up with Deputy Marshal Cooper. He held the dog at bay with his firearm, but did not shoot for fear of provoking the Weavers. An exchange of gunfire occurred moments later, resulting in the death of Deputy Marshal William Degan, Sammy Weaver, and the dog.

The subsequent government investigation did not corroborate this somewhat parsed version. Allowing the LEOs to hole up together in a condo to get their stories in line does not help their credibility.

[Jeff Head]

That sequence of events was challenged at the trial and the jury did not believe it. If they had, Weaver and Harris would have been found guilty in the death of the marshall...but they weren't. Instead, Weaver and Harris were exonerated in the deaths of the marshall.

According to Weaver and Harris, whom the jury believed, the events were much different and resulted in the death of Sammy (shot in the back) and later Vicki (shot through the throat as she held her baby), as well as the marshall (killed by friendly fire).

The government (like in Waco) is the entity that should have been on trial here. The blood of those innocents, as well as the blood of those at Waco, has not had any justice whatsoewver done by them. It is a travesty and a disgrace.ntested and the jury believed the Weavers...thus he and