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To: merry10

If it were me answering your post, I would want to know why a socially liberal candidate is being pushed onto this socially conservative forum. Hunter fits the template described by Jim Robinson much better than any of the so-called front runners.



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The 2 polls on Free Republic put forth an obvious SOCON (only Hunter fits that description given) versus a SOLIB (it certainly fits rudy).
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=171
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=172

Rudy splits the base.


I would expect rudy supporters to answer the false dilemma because there have certainly been enough of them asking the false dilemma of "who would you vote for, Hildebeast or Rudy", and your post is a new form of sendup of the same false dilemma. If you don't like answering false dilemmas, don't ask them, and get yer buddies to stop asking them. In particular, since this is a socon forum (not even a GOP forum), it is very impolite to ask double-bind questions, expecially this early in the race.



Would you care to answer the false dilemma? Since team rudy is so fond of its own false dilemma, after all.


My contention: If rudy gets the nomination, he splits the base, possibly splits the republican party, and loses the election.

Your contention: If Hunter gets it, he wins the base and loses the election.



Hypothetical to answer your hypothetical. Both sides losing to Hillary.
Side A: The solib republican splits the base. The MSM turns on him the moment he is nominated. Hillary wins. Republican party is split.
Side B: The socon republican wins the nomination, loses to hildebeast in a tough fight. Republicans are united against the hillary presidency.

Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?



Win-Win false dilemma:
Side A: Solib wins presidency by ignoring the socon base and permanently splitting the republican party.
Side B: SoCon wins presidency by (obviously) relying on the socon base.

Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?


547 posted on 03/15/2007 1:25:04 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Kevmo

Great observations!

Unfortunately, they only apply for people who ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN THE CONSERVATIVE AGENDA.


548 posted on 03/15/2007 1:46:26 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Kevmo

I've seen all that before. Question for you - it's understood that FR is a site founded by and run by Jim Robinson. I support a candidate different than you.

Because I support a candidate different than you, does that mean my views are not welcome? Do you want to squelch my thoughts...because then you're tinkering with my right to free speech. Does my support of Rudy mean I am not a conservative? More importantly, does Duncan Hunter think that supporters of Rudy are not conservative (because to win the presidency, we're going to need more than just conservatives to vote for a Republican candidate). ?
\So does that mean that my views are not welcome? Does that mean I am "not a conservative?" Primary for me is the war on terror and security of this nation.

Since this is a public forum, my questions to Duncan Hunter's Ambassador, let's just call him SAM, are fair questions and he answered them. He provided me the answer I wanted to hear. So sorry that you can't let him answer for himself. I wonder why. Are you worried about something?


550 posted on 03/15/2007 2:36:15 PM PDT by merry10
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