Posted on 02/23/2007 5:31:04 PM PST by blam
So we'll have no boots on the ground, do you think?
That was a very interesting program, wasn't it? How the techs sabotaged the planes gave me a chuckle.
The English paper picked ARMADA specifically with intent.
This is shades of Nelson vs the Spanish Armada.
They want to encourage the enemy by the reference.
Go here to see the worlds oceans reduced in depth by about 320 feet. The Persian Gulf was completely dry during the Ice Age. It's not very deep.
Nothing more than some special forces...if that.
I predict Israel will strike the blow, we are there for backup. If Iran attacks the U.S. forces, Bush has all the excuse he needs.
Israel has gone quite, anyone else notice?
Take a walk, coward.
Last night it was either the History or the Military Channel that had three hours back to back that I'm sure the White House hopes al Jazeera picks up. It couldn't have been a clearer warning to Iran - "mess with us and this is what you get"!
Hr.1: Capabilities of the Abrams A1-M2 tank.
Hr.2: Capabilities of F-117 and B-2 stealth technology.
Hr.3: Split between Trident missile sub and CV Stennis aircraft carrier capabilities.
There was some great footage, some which I hadn't seen before. Any potential adversary looking at those three hours would, if they had a functioning brain cell in their heads, blink twice and think hard.
I think that was Effingham, Hawkins and Drake on the Britich side. As I recall, Nelson was over 200 years later at Trafalgar.
After the Lebanon screw-up...I'm not as confident they will as I once was.
I HAVE piloted United States aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. So I will consult myself.
And you?
I HAVE piloted United States aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. So I will consult myself.
And you?
It's one of the first things we will do. Any conflict with Iran has as a co-primary goal keeping Iran from interrupting the flow oil through the Straits of Hormuz....the other being Natanz and other nuclear sites.
The carriers don't need to enter the Gulf to accomplish this. I doubt they would even go into the Gulf if (when) the Iranian Navy no longer exists.
Really? I thought you are originally from France.
I'm not a military guy. Just trying to get a feel for the reaction should the nutballs decide to launch a strike.
The (spice) oil must flow...
No, the carriers don't need to go into the Gulf to take out the various sites at the Straits, that is true. That you can do standing off in the Indian Ocean.
But if you're going to strike inland any farther than the Eastern end of the country, the carriers need to be in the Gulf to be able to maintain high sortie rates. Operating off Oman is just too damned far to be effective if you're hitting central Iran.
The danger to the carriers, or rather, to A (single) carrier, isn't that we're going to try and "run the gauntlet" when at war with Iran. It's that the tensions with Iran will seem normal, as now, we'll be threading a carrier through the straights, and the bastards will hit us with a Silkworm/Sunburn attack by surprise. It it would be all out war, of course, and they'd lose, but we'd have grievous damage done to a carrier (*unless the close-in weapons systems work better than expected), and if they hit right, we might lose one and have a wrecked carrier blocking the channel.
It would be the beginning of the end of the Iranian regime, but if they were going to go out in a blaze of glory, in a sort of uber-suicide attack, that would be how we could easily see them doing it. It wouldn't be very hard for them to do. And it's why the transit through the Straits of Hormuz is always the most tense part of a trip over there.
Yes, it would be suicide for Iran to do such a thing, but the Middle East IS the land of the suicide bomber, self-immolating for Allah, and this is by no means something outside of their capacity. It's well within their capacity if they do it out of the blue. Which they COULD do.
But it's still better to risk it and get the carriers into the Gulf, so you have coverage over all of Iran.
So do you think that's why they named Admiral Fallon to head up the effort?
Im sure there are a few boomers as well :o)
Agree 100%. It is insane for some regimes in this world that they have not learned yet that when America unleashes it incredible military might, the consequences will be more damaging to them than anything they would have imagined. But that is why these terrorists regimes are insane, they cannot comprehend how incredibly powerful is the United States.
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