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To: zarf

The woman does have a right to choose.
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And frankly, I am tired of seeing this philosophical issue, which it is, being headlined as the leading matter facing America and its government. This election had better turn toward the big problems and issues facing America...internal and external. America has enemies, internal and external. Taxation, spending, soverignty, borders, illegal immigration, our legal system, protecting our beloved Constitution from socialist attack, national security, the military strength, our economy, the war on terror, our disasterous government education system....all need heavy attention and debate.

Let the candidates, and the media, step up and address the managerial issues facing this country.


10 posted on 02/22/2007 7:36:33 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
I agree, however abortion is the one all consuming, overriding federal issue.
12 posted on 02/22/2007 7:38:58 AM PST by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: EagleUSA
I agree, however abortion is the one all consuming, overriding federal issue for some.
13 posted on 02/22/2007 7:39:11 AM PST by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: EagleUSA

I certainly agree and suspect there is a strong reason the media wants abortion to be the number one and deciding issue.


14 posted on 02/22/2007 7:39:41 AM PST by rhombus
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To: EagleUSA

As long as this "philosophical issue" (death on a genocidal scale is hardly "philosophical") continues, it will be an issue. The other issues you list are just as important. Abortion is a symptom of a sick society, and has consequences with many of those issues.


15 posted on 02/22/2007 7:39:46 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: EagleUSA
And frankly, I am tired of seeing this philosophical issue, which it is, being headlined as the leading matter facing America and its government. This election had better turn toward the big problems and issues facing America...internal and external. America has enemies, internal and external. Taxation, spending, soverignty, borders, illegal immigration, our legal system, protecting our beloved Constitution from socialist attack, national security, the military strength, our economy, the war on terror, our disasterous government education system....all need heavy attention and debate.

Protecting human life is a "philosophical issue"? I would say that the fact that unborn babies can be killed at will is as least as important as tax cuts, don't you think?

16 posted on 02/22/2007 7:40:25 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: EagleUSA

It's only philosophical to those who've been born. It's only philosophical because it's out of sight and out of mind.


36 posted on 02/22/2007 7:59:34 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: EagleUSA

I agree with you. As long as thee are people that put the abortion issue above and beyond everything else, either for or against, then this country will rot from lack of attention to other, critical issues. The plain fact is that no president is ever going to be able to change the current abortion situation in this country. Even with supreme court nominations, I doubt there will be a polar shift where women and doctors go to jail for abortion or going to states where it would be permitted. Frankly, I think Rudy did a fantastic job leading NY after 9/11, probably a bit better than Bush did, and he even cut taxes in a tax and spend liberal bastion.


37 posted on 02/22/2007 7:59:44 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: EagleUSA
And frankly, I am tired of seeing this philosophical issue, which it is, being headlined as the leading matter facing America and its government.

"Philosophical issues" don't bleed.

215 posted on 02/22/2007 10:55:43 AM PST by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: EagleUSA
And frankly, I am tired of seeing this philosophical issue, which it is, being headlined as the leading matter facing America and its government.

If you had lived in Germany during Hitler's time would you have thought that the Nazi death camps were not a leading matter facing Germany? The American abortion holocaust is just as deadly to unborn and partially born human lives as Hitler's was to Jewish human lives. The scorecard so far is 6 million deaths in Nazi death camps, and 48 million deaths in America's abortion mills. The main difference is that Hitler didn't make money from the death camps but America's abortion industry makes millions every year from it's death clinics. America will eventually face the judgement of God for allowing this murderous industry to continue it's deadly business just as Germany was judged severely for it's own holocaust. But America is not Germany, and we will be judged more severely because we have received greater blessings from God from the very first days of the nation than any other nation on earth. A just God will not tolerate this degree of evil by a nation on which he has bestowed protection and help in every time of trouble in far greater abundance than on any other nation in history.

I could admire Giluliani for some of his accomplishments in NYC if not for his approval of abortion and special "rights" for homosexuals. A man can't change his innate character, which is more important to me than his political philosophy which he can change at will. Any man who can approve the killing of innocent unborn and partially born human babies has an extremely serious character flaw that I can't overlook for the sake of political expediency. I will never under any conceivable circumstances vote for a pro-abortion candidate for any public office at any level of government. I can't accept that serious character flaw in a person holding a position of trust and authority.

You may say "Oh but the nominee of the other party is also pro-abortion so why not vote for the lesser of two evils overall"? To which I would reply, I don't intend to vote for the other party's nominee either, and for many, many reasons besides his or her position on abortion. Someone once said that he would rather be right than president, but I would rather be true to my principles regarding the sanctity of human life than to help elect someone simply out of loyalty to a political party.

265 posted on 02/22/2007 11:30:30 AM PST by epow (Shia or Sunni, who cares? They're both vicious barbarians from the 7th century dark ages)
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To: EagleUSA
And frankly, I am tired of seeing this philosophical issue, which it is, being headlined as the leading matter facing America and its government.

Yeah, why the heck should we care if our government is OK with (and even subsidizes) ripping a million and a half small children per year?

In all seriousness, try getting a grip. A philosophical issue? Seems to me it's a scientific issue, since any moron who says a fetus isn't a child is as dumb as a person who really believes thunder is the sound of God bowling. Perhaps most ludicrous of all is the idea that war and immigration issues are lacking attention because of the abortion debate. Puh-leeze, like we can't fight a war, close a border and debate an issue at the same time.

375 posted on 02/22/2007 8:26:25 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Logic" is as meaningless to a liberal as "desert" is to a fish.--Freeper IronJack)
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