Posted on 02/22/2007 7:27:03 AM PST by meg88
That's fine, not nearly as bad as I expected. I support anything that will put criminals behind bar for a longer period.
I saw you advocating Old Testament law in America on another thread, so I just guessed that you had affinity for extreme measures. Not in this case, though.
Oh yeah??
Where??
My apologies, I checked it, and it wasn't true. My memory has a habit of 'remembering' things that aren't true.
If that were true, then every finding of fact by a court, every murder sentence, every divorce decree, every small claims award, every speeding ticket fine, all of it, would be judicial activism. In fact, a ruling by the court that a fetus is a human would be in its way sounder than a guilty sentence in a murder trial, since there is no real doubt that a fetus is not human, but the murderer was only convicted beyond a reasonable doubt. Seriously, can you give me any scientific evidence that a fetus is not a human baby?
Saying that a fetus is a person and should not be murdered is no more judicial activism than if a court decreed that women named Linda are human and should not be murdered.
We're talking past each other. You're speaking biologically - of course a human fetus is human, that's established. I'm talking about its personhood being established in law, which is a completely different question.
You and me both!
Slips happen...
Now back to our regular programming: Bashing Hillary and the Libs!!!
It seems like it IS established.
Injure a pregnant woman and kill the 'fetus' and you get charged with murder - unless, of course, she WANTS it dead and you are wearing a white lab coat!
What argument have I made regarding gun toters, and the Second Amendment? I'm all for you having the right to bear arms and tote those guns around, because I support the conservative principle that we are guaranteed individual liberty.
That's why I don't understand how "conservatives" can believe they have a right to own a gun, but that women don't have a right to their own body.
Please explain why you believe you are entitled to own a gun, but I'm not entitled to decide what to do with my body.
And if you would be so kind, I'd like to know what empowers you to make the choice for me, when the law says you do not.
Two bodies and two lives at stake. The woman's and the baby's. The baby is a separate individual. The "mother" is entrusted with that life.
Thirty years of debates like "this thread" have changed nothing, including the law that guarantees my right to make choices about my body without having to answer to people like you.
If Americans wanted it different, something would have changed. Not enough people want it to change to cause them to take action.
Clue.
The top of my list for boys is Joshua Chamberlain Silverback.
So if your state issued hunting licenses and carcass bounties for people whose screen names start with the letter U, you would be OK with that?
So if your state issued hunting licenses and carcass bounties for people whose screen names start with the letter U, you would be OK with that?
Oh, one other thing...What does the 14th Amendment say? What does it guarantee no government (that's NO government, not the federal government) may take from someone without due process?
The issue we were discussing was the right to life. Perhaps you lost that train of thought somewhere along the way.
What a despicable showing of moral relativism.
So according to you, saying the murder of innocents is the same no matter what 'dress' it wears is moral relativism? Please explain. How is it 'relativism'?
Are you saying that America is a as bad as Islamic states?
I'm saying exactly what I said. Murder of innocents is horrid no matter who does it.
Why are you preaching hatred of America?
Please cut and paste where I ever said anything about hating America. Oh, that's right you can't. I never said such a thing.
But I forgive you for trying to be deceitful.
You still have to answer to GOD.
How long was slavery 'legal' in this country before it was over turned?
30 years is nothing, and 'these threads' HAVE changed things.
You are right.
But the tipping point is getting closer...
(We don't want no steeking salmonella!)
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