Posted on 02/22/2007 7:27:03 AM PST by meg88
The guy had life threatening prostate cancer. Get a grip.
On again, off again. It is Lent, so I may be more not here than here.
He did. He also dumped wife number one, wife number two and supports killing the unborn, grabbing guns, global warming coercion and grabbing guns.
Well then, by all means, let's legalize murder as long as the person making the decision to kill is a woman. Why should government be thinking it knows what's best for women?
Is your point that Rudy sucks, or that those things had a bearing on his dropping from the race in 2000?
Somebody rips the limbs off a small child and crushes their skull and rib cage...are you saying that the fact that they're not aware of their position under the law somehow makes that less horrible?
Yeah, and you know what? I'll bet God sends slaveholders straight to Hell, so let's give that judgment back to Him and bring back the freedom to own an African.
Oh, wait, and then we could get rid of the laws against murder...we'll all feel a lot more free, and if some guy kills you, you can die with the satisfaction that God will get him for it.
Get a grip...if a fetus is a human, he or she should have protection under the law just like you.
Great, please cite the part of the Constitution where the right to abort is found.
Yes, but the point is not "this is immoral, let's ban it, the point is that either abortion is absolutely morally defensible (no more wrong than having an appendectomy) or it is absolutely wrong, because it's killing a human. There is no middle ground.
everyone has their different opinion...but since there are objective differences between that human being and a born human being (even if one considers the fetus a human being), there will always be a debate about it.
If a bunch of people decided it was best for society to act as if thunder was the sound of God bowling, would you have this same attitude about it? Would you consider it a matter of debate?
There is not a single feature of the fetus that leaves any scientific doubt that it is a human life. I defy you to offer me one. Your post is relativistic BS.
Ah...your answer to his claptrap was much more succint and pointed than mine. Bravo!
OK, take the words "abortion/infanticide" out of that and replace it with murder, genocide, wife-beating, burglary...
We haven't wiped those things out yet and never will...should we legalize them?
Then you are paranoid.
Of course a woman has a right to choose. It's the only way it should be. Let the woman decide for herself according to her own morals what she believes on this devisive issue. It's the only approach that makes the most sense and that's why the supreme court decided the way they did. Why should the people of a state decide to make a personal health decision for women. Why should the state be telling women what they can and can't do when it's a decision that doesn't even affect them personally and the entire nation and world have views that are all over the board. Pro-lifers don't agree on what should or shouldn't be legal, pro choicers differ widely too. Any woman who disagrees is just going to hop the state lines and go somewhere else where she can get it done. It's totally pointless and a waste of time to try to overturn Roe and get this issue back to the states. I'm sure women will be able to get abortions easier because charities will be set up all over the country with abortions and transportation and lodging fully paid for any woman that wants one, because people will feel sorry for the women having their rights taken away.
Every woman should have the right to opt out of putting their life and health at risk by continuing a pregnancy. Pregnancy is like a major surgery (probably 10 times worse and more risky) and everyone has the right to decide major health decisions like major surgery for themselves. It shouldn't be up to states to decide these issues because it places grossly unfair burdens on women. It's total inequality because women have to suffer and men don't because of burdensome, health altering and life altering laws imposed by the state.
Indeed!
A BALD EAGLE has more legal protection than a human being!
(Check out forfeiture: http://ipl.unm.edu/cwl/fedbook/eagleact.html)
As you noted, she already HAS 'suffered'.
My complaint against the 'rape - incest' loophole is:
No perp - no abortion.
Nope...
It's a privilege the Gummint GIVES a woman.
Huh?
"Slavery is a totally unsolveable issue IMO.", was said a lot, no doubt, way back then.
But along come DRED SCOTT and, instead of permantly ending the debate, actually ramped it up!
Abortion's DRED SCOTT is coming....
Abortion is unique, can't be compared to anything else.
Sorry, but this very THREAD proves you wrong!
Yeah.... 'report'....
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