"In his support for partial birth abortion."
He is against partial birth abortions, contrary to the misinformation some on here are posting. On Hannity Rudy said “Partial-birth abortion, I think that's going to be upheld(by the USSC). I think that ban is going to be upheld. I think it should be.” And as soon as Rudy got finished saying this, Hannity acknowledged, “There's a misconception that you supported partial-birth abortion”. So there we have, Rudy is against partial birth abortions.
He's for strict constructionist judges. Ted Olsen said that Rudy has been for strict constructionist since their time together in the Reagan Justice Department in the 1980s. Ted Olsen has no reason to lie.
You know Rudy is conservative on most non-social issues. An FR is poll is not scientific and can in no way tell you anything about what the American electorate is feeling. There is not point in even using it at all because it proves NOTHING!! It indicates nothing. Anyways, you have your view, I have mine, lets just leave it at that. We'll find out what happens soon enough anyways.
He is against partial birth abortions, contrary to the misinformation some on here are posting. WRONG!
Rudy Giuliani Supports Partial Birth Abortion
[GEORGE] WILL: Is your support of partial birth abortion firm?
Mayor GIULIANI: All of my positions are firm. I have strong viewpoints. I express them. And I--I do not think that it makes sense to be changing your position....
ABC News February 6, 2000
TUCHMAN: Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports.
GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.
- CNN December 2, 1999
BLITZER: If you were in the Senate
and [President Clinton] vetoed, once again, the [ban on the] so-called partial-birth abortion procedure, you would vote against sustaining that against the -- in favor of the veto in other words, you would support the president on that.
GIULIANI:
Yes. I said then that I support him, so I have no reason to change my mind about it. BLITZER: All right. So the bottom line is that on a lot of these very sensitive issues whether on guns, abortion, patients' bill of rights, taxes,
you are more in line with the president and by association, with Mrs. Clinton, than you are against them. - CNN February 6, 2000
MR. RUSSERT: A banning of late-term abortions, so-called partial-birth abortions--you're against that?
MAYOR GIULIANI: I'm against it in New York, because in New York...
MR. RUSSERT: Well, if you were a senator, would you vote with the president or against the president? [Note: President Clinton was in office in 2000]
MAYOR GIULIANI: I would vote to preserve the option for women. I think that choice is a very difficult one. It's a very, very--it's one in which people of conscious have very, very different opinions. I think the better thing for America to do is to leave that choice to the woman, because it affects her probably more than anyone else....
MR. RUSSERT: So you won't change your view on late-term abortion in order to get the Conservative Party endorsement?
MAYOR GIULIANI: It isn't just that. We shouldn't limit this to one issue. I'm generally not going to change my views
- NBC Meet the Press, February 6, 2000
***Note: the version of the Partial Birth Abortion Ban that Giuliani opposed in 2000, that he said he supported Bill Clinton in vetoing the Republican-controlled Congress's legislation, contained the exception for the life of the mother that Rudy is now trying to pretend is a prerequisite for his support of it.
An FR is poll is not scientific and can in no way tell you anything about what the American electorate is feeling. There is not point in even using it at all because it proves NOTHING!!
***First, allow me to point out that you're obfuscating. An FR poll tells us what's going on in FR, which represents the socon base, more or less. Your contention is that it proves nothing, my contention is that it proves that Giuliani splits the base. Of course, you just breeze over my contention and go into straw argumentation. You simply have not made the case for your candidate. He's doomed. If he gets the nomination, he splits the base -- what is his plan for a split base? No one has ever won a Republican presidency with a split base. Second, allow me to notice that you're getting shrill, which is a sign of frustration. It's also a sign that Duncan Hunter is gaining ground on your candidate. It's all a downward spiral after that. Third, there is currently a poll on FR for Giuliani against Hunter, with Hunter getting about 80% of this "base which belong to us". FReep this poll: Giuliani vs Duncan Hunter
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Posted on 02/23/2007 2:58:35 PM PST by Jim Robinson
FReep this poll: Giuliani vs Duncan Hunter:
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=173
It indicates nothing. Anyways, you have your view, I have mine, lets just leave it at that. We'll find out what happens soon enough anyways.
***It proves that Giuliani is making no traction in the base and that he needs to come up with a plan of winning the presidency with a split republican party. I don't envy him.
He is against partial birth abortions, contrary to the misinformation some on here are posting. On Hannity Rudy said “Partial-birth abortion, I think that's going to be upheld(by the USSC). I think that ban is going to be upheld. I think it should be.” And as soon as Rudy got finished saying this, Hannity acknowledged, “There's a misconception that you supported partial-birth abortion”. So there we have, Rudy is against partial birth abortions. Rudy has said he would support a ban with a provision for the life of the mother. However, he supported Clinton's veto of just such a ban. So once again, what are to believe, what he says now when he needs our votes, or what he did in the past when he could care less about our votes?