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1 posted on 02/20/2007 3:44:27 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

You seem to be qualified for the job but that whole rape/murder thing makes me question your qualifications....


2 posted on 02/20/2007 3:47:25 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Brilliant

What do you suppose a convicted felon should do? Lay down and just die?


3 posted on 02/20/2007 3:53:12 AM PST by bkepley
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To: Brilliant

Better suggestion: Never commit a felony.


7 posted on 02/20/2007 4:01:46 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Brilliant
For a relatively short article, the author spread a lot of bad advice quickly not to mention (but I will) a poor command of the English language.

1. First, consult legal council (b)(it's COUNSEL, you twit) about the possibility of getting your record expunged, sealed or the conviction reduced.

4. "Look to personal contacts and friends to help you get a job," Kendall asserts. Someone who knows you will not be as wary to take a chance on you. Hanging with the crowd that probably got you sent to the joint in the first place is usually prohibited when on probation/parole.

5. Seek employment with small and local companies. "We promote looking for jobs with small companies and independent businesses and employers, instead of major chains," Roseborough divulges. Local businesses may have less stringent hiring requirements and are more willing to give you a chance.Translation: Mom and Pop are easy to pull the wool over on and will take longer to figure out what scam you are running.

6. Consider self-employment. Walt* was convicted at age 19 of drug possession and attempted sale. After serving time in prison, he took odd jobs in various auto shops and car dealerships to learn about car repair. He now works as an independent contractor and operates his own auto repair business. Nowhere in this article does it say that you should get and stay clean from drugs as most employers require a pee test. Even those that don't may require a pee test after an at-work accident/incident.

"We encourage the young men we work with to look into entrepreneurship. We suggest taking up a trade that a felony record wouldn't hinder, such as plumbing, construction or janitorial work. You can be your own employer with these skills," Roseborough says. The trade suggested, plumbing, requires a license which, in my state, will never be granted to a felon. Think about it: do you want a felon to have easy access to your home to check out the valuables? I didn't think so.

8. Be professional and confident. "Many young men we see lack people skills. We tell them that when they go to an employment office or are in an interview if they are dressed appropriately, speak well, and have confidence it will show," Roseborough says. "We explain that their resume is like an ad in the newspaper, but they are the 'product;' and they have to go in and 'sell' themselves. Some employers will take a chance if there is a nice presentation." "Yo dawg, it's like this, ya see. The man, he be down on me and ya gots to have a gat or ya don't gets no 'spect, ya see?" -- There's the door...

18 posted on 02/20/2007 4:45:43 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Brilliant

I seem to recall in Calif. they have a strange way of treating felony convictions. They call them wobblers, if you were convicted of a felony, but given probation instead, it becomes a misdemeanor. If that is true, you might be able to get away with saying "no." Disclaimer: This isn't legal advice!!



26 posted on 02/20/2007 5:04:45 AM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: Brilliant

I have a friend with a felony on his record and some quality prison time to prove it. When he last applied for a job, he noted the incarceration period on his resume as a job working for the "XXXXX State Dept of Corrections" and went on to list the job duties he performed while on daytime work release. It was the best way he could tell the truth on the resume while giving himself the chance at some face time with a potential employer. Believe it or not, it worked.


32 posted on 02/20/2007 5:56:49 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Point your toilets towards Mecca!)
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To: Brilliant
I must point out here that Jesus was not only a convicted felon...but punished by capital punishment. (Yes, I know it was an exchange for a Barabbas, but the point still stands.) He was not guilty of course, but his "record" would not have shown that. He also forgave his fellow "felon" who asked for forgiveness.

If we do not offer another chance to those who ask, we are essentially condemning all of us forever. That is exactly what the devil would have us do. Christ changed that. Living the concept of grace and redemption has risks.

Now, aside from the Christianity aspect, it is good public policy to give felon's a stake in society and their own lives once they have paid their debt to society. Without that, you simply guarantee further criminal activity just to survive.
53 posted on 02/20/2007 6:36:29 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Brilliant

Keep in mind the trend to make lots of things felonies. Carry a can of mace in your glove compartment in Michigan, even one that is 20 years old? A five year felony. Accidentally cover up a "wetland" on your property? Felony. Do I even need to start on the potential for "hate crimes"?

Not saying don't be wary of someone with a felony record. Just pointing out the trend for legislators to criminalize more and more of us.


54 posted on 02/20/2007 6:39:38 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Brilliant
1. President

2. Senator

3. Representative

4. DNC

5. Drive-By Media

6. NBA player

7. NFL Player

8. Hillary's Team

9. Clinton's Team 10.Murtha's Lawyer

55 posted on 02/20/2007 6:39:51 AM PST by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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To: Mr. Brightside; Cagey; MotleyGirl70
"Many of our clients start with jobs in manufacturing and fast food

"GEORGE: I didn't know he'd get fired.

JERRY: He'll probably kill his family over this.

GEORGE: What if he's waiting for me outside? He pointed at me! Did you see him point?!

JERRY: A lot of ex-cons become busboys. They seem to gravitate towards 'em.

57 posted on 02/20/2007 6:41:48 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Brilliant

Good article...for the DU.


62 posted on 02/20/2007 6:45:58 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Acts 17:11 also known as sola scriptura.)
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To: Brilliant

As someone who has owned small businesses for over 20 years, I've hired folks who have served time for felony convictions.


85 posted on 02/20/2007 7:12:48 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Brilliant

Felony on your record? Seek work with the Democrat party.


86 posted on 02/20/2007 7:14:42 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Brilliant

- run for congress. It's the biggest bunch of felons there is.


88 posted on 02/20/2007 7:27:19 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Brilliant

Oh yes, the efficacy of those famous background checks:

Read this Tennessean article for an example:

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070220/NEWS03/702200347


102 posted on 02/20/2007 8:47:39 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Brilliant
Consider self-employment.

Why do I have the feeling that "self employment" was the cause for the felony in the first place?

107 posted on 02/20/2007 8:56:42 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Brilliant
As somebody who was found guilty of a crime I didn't commit, boy, can I relate to this. Situations similar to this are where politicians can help. That is, they can step in and get the process moving again. I am now in the middle of getting my record expunged which, once done, will open some additional doors of employment for me.

For those found guilty of crimes they actually committed, I'm of the opinion they should get a second chance. Of course that depends on the type of crime they committed and what type of job they're hoping to get.

109 posted on 02/20/2007 9:06:05 AM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: Brilliant

About a week after my 18th birthday, I had a serious drug problem and made a bad mistake and walked into a store at one in the morning and stole everything. I was arrested the next day, returned everything I stole, and paid a voluntary restitution. Two years later, and after six months in jail, I can’t get a job. I haven’t touched drugs since my arrest. There has to be some kind of reform on the criminal background check. Not to say jobs shouldn’t run background checks (you can’t have a sex offender working with kids), but I feel like I’m serving a life sentence and there’s no way out.


125 posted on 11/05/2008 1:33:55 PM PST by billericaguy (Be a little more sensitive)
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