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>>Uh no, I as a Baptist do not believe that Baptists are the only one and true Christian
>>church. Lutherans, Episcopalians, Methodists, Catholics et al, do not claim to be the
>>one and only Christian church.

Lets test this a little bit, shall we?

From http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_true.htm
The Encyclopedia of American Religions 1 lists 1,588 religious denominations, sects, faith groups, organizations, etc. Most are currently operating in North America; a few are defunct but have been recently active. The vast majority of them consider themselves to be Christian. Some of these groups believe that they are the only true Christian church.

So, most churches have at one time at least claimed to be the “One True Church”.

From SRC FAQ Collection:
The major historical denominations have largely patched up their differences. While there are still some difference between the Arminian/Wesleyan, Lutheran, and Reformed traditions, you don't have the name-calling that was present in the 19th Cent, and these churches generally recognize each other as legitimate (except for issues of modernism). However some of the "non-denominational" churches continue to insist loudly that they are the only true church.

Lutherans: So Lutherans used to say they were the only true church, and while they don’t now, they don’t refute that they once said so, so it’s still technically a doctrine.
Catholics: Only one and true church (http://www.justforcatholics.org/a71.htm )
Methodists: I have relatives, who are Methodists, and in fact my parents converted from Methodism, and I have been told by Methodists that they are “The one true church”, all while they were damning me to hell for not belonging to their church, much like you have here.
Baptists: Only true church… (http://www.baptisthistory.org/baptistsandtheology.htm )
From Baptists, and their theology: At the heart of the Landmark movement led by J. R. Graves (1820–93) and others was a conviction that Baptists are the only true church in a New Testament sense and that it was a compromise of that fact for Baptists to enter into relationships with non-Baptists.

>>Mormons do. You do not even know what you believe.

Well, somebody here is indeed talking through their hat, but this increasingly theoretical person would not be me.

>>This is what Christians believe: A person can confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior on their death bed and gain entrance into Heaven.

Where is that written? or are you referring to the Thief on the cross next to Jesus? Jesus promised him that he would be with him that day in paradise, and paradise is where we wait to be judged. Jesus did not say “Today shalt thou be with me in heaven”

>>Not so with Mormons, you believe in different levels of Heaven

Degrees of heaven is a Biblical concept
Try 2 Corr 12:2 (http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_cor/12/2#2)
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

How about 1 Corr 15:41 (http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_cor/15/41#41 )
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

So, the Bible speaks of Several degrees of Glory, which is what we believe.

>>and furthermore, you also believe there is no such thing as Hell.

Second Nephi 9:19
19 O the greatness of the mercy of our God, the Holy One of Israel! For he adelivereth his saints from that awful monster the devil, and death, and hell, and that lake of fire and brimstone, which is endless torment.

Do you really have any idea what we believe? Now Our concept of hell may be a little different then yours, but I’m willing to be there is diversity there among other Christians as well.

>>Mormons are blasphemers

I guess, if you say so, I’ll just have to take your word for it (baseless assumption)

>>just because Jews called Jesus a blasphemer does not make your blasphemy against him A-OK.

You would be correct were I actually blaspheming (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Blaspheme)
Blaspheme –
1. to speak impiously or irreverently of (God or sacred things).
2. to speak evil of; slander; abuse.
3. to speak irreverently of God or sacred things; utter impieties.

>>By the way, Ad Hominem attack is not simply name calling, it is attacking a person's character. You attacked my character. Therefore you attacked me personally rather than my position.

Ad Hominem (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Ad%20Hominem)
1. appealing to one's prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or reason.
2. attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.

I responded to your argument. I Questioned your logic. I did Question your conservative credentials as one who is not using logic. I stand by those characterizations as my perception of your arguments by me.

I did not attack you personally that would be something like “You mother wears army boots” or some such drivel. An “Ad Homonym” attack is looked down upon on this forum as it usually takes the form of “Name calling” if I am not allowed to question your logic when you are clearly being illogical, such a ban is ridiculous. If you feel that I have broken the rules, please bring in the Admin Moderator, if not then you complaint is hollow posturing. You attacked my religion first, and the Admins tend to look on that with a jaundiced eye.

I believe anyone reading our posts would realize that I have substantively responded to your arguments, and not just called you names. If such responses by me include questioning your logic, and therefore your conservative credentials, those statements should be taken in that context.

That said, humor is also important since you said we were similar to musims (I don’t see many suicidal Mormons, but…) I offer this link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLyyO6Wp1ig