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Game over on global warming?
Los Angeles Times ^ | 02/05/2007 | Alan Zarembo

Posted on 02/05/2007 8:53:45 PM PST by HarryCaul

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To: BamaGirl

I know you are joking, but in all seriousness, would global warming be bad? It HAS been warmer in the past and there was much more vegetation. From what I read, even the sahara was fruitful. I am getting the distinct impression that a warmer planet is a wetter planet.

This whole global warming thing is bad science on a number of levels.


61 posted on 02/06/2007 1:44:59 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: HarryCaul

buy all available credits.


62 posted on 02/06/2007 2:47:17 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: All

Look into who heads the IPCC.

Rajendra K. Pachauri

was elected chief of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in 2002. In 2001 he supported a consumer boycott of ExxonMobil for its stance on global warming, saying it was "a good way to put economic pressure on the US."

Vice chair Richard Odingo

Richard Odingo: We can't solve poverty until we stop climate change

There is no point in giving sacks of food every time drought wipes out crops - that's just not sustainable

Vice chair Mohan Munasinghe

Munasinghe Institute for Development (MIND), Sri Lanka

Sustainomics is a transdisciplinary meta-framework for making development more sustainable. It is designed to be balanced, heuristic, integrative and practical, and deals with the economic, social and environmental dimensions of sustainable development.

...and a drum roll is appropriate for this final one. He's a doozy, and has lied to the public before.

Vice chair Yuri A. Izrael

Mr. Medvedev also makes it clear that the haphazard, and often bungled, attempts to handle the Chernobyl disaster resulted not just from technical inadequacy but from a bureaucratic cover-up - of the accident itself and of its potential medical effects - that reached as high as the central ministerial level. Hundreds of thousands of Soviet people were exposed to dangerous levels of radioactivity because they were not evacuated, and even today many remain exposed as they eat food from and live in irradiated areas, mainly Byelorussia and the Ukraine. Many of these accusations, which were first made in the Soviet press last fall, point in the direction of Yuri A. Izrael, chairman of the State Committee on Hydrometeorology, which kept radiological data hidden from the public, and Yevgeny I. Chazov, the Minister of Health, who played down the biological impact of radiation.


63 posted on 02/06/2007 3:05:33 AM PST by Reform4Bush
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To: neodad
Hold onto your pocketbook.

DING! DING! DING! We have a winnah...


64 posted on 02/06/2007 3:21:57 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: HarryCaul

Like I've said many times, there is a simple solution to global warming and to the environment in general: Reduce the size of the world's population by about 85%.


65 posted on 02/06/2007 3:32:41 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: HarryCaul
Game over on global warming?

Are they kidding...unfortunately, the "game" is just beginning.

66 posted on 02/06/2007 3:35:42 AM PST by NewLand (The most quoted FReeper on obscure anti-Free Republic websites)
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To: Coyoteman
My opinion? Fluctuations of the sun are the cause

But I thought scientists have reached consensus on man made causes of global warming?

IPCC Fourth Assessment Report: AR4

The Working Group I report was published on February 2, 2007 [5]. Its key conclusions were that [6]:

*Global warming is occurring
*Hotter temperatures and rises in sea level "would continue for centuries" no matter how much humans control their pollution.[7]
*The probability that this is caused by natural climatic processes is less than 5%
*The probability that this is caused by human emissions of greenhouse gases is over 90%
*World temperatures will probably rise by 1.8 to 4°C (3.25 to 7.2°F) during the 21st century and that:
Sea levels will probably rise by 28 to 43cm (11 to 17 inches)
*It is more than 66% certain that there will be an increase in droughts, tropical cyclones and extreme high tides.
*Both past and future anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions will continue to contribute to warming and sea level rise for more than a millennium.
*The atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide in 2005 exceeds by far the natural range over the last 650,000 years.
*The atmospheric concentration of methane in 2005 exceeds by far the natural range over the last 650,000 years.

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How do you explain these findings?

67 posted on 02/06/2007 3:58:41 AM PST by NewLand (Always remember September 11, 2001)
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To: NewLand

"Comrade, the Commissar of Mathematics wants it to equal 26."


68 posted on 02/06/2007 4:11:22 AM PST by fzx12345 (This tagline has been left blank unintentionally.)
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To: skimask

That's the same gas as photo in post 14....


69 posted on 02/06/2007 4:18:15 AM PST by Proverbs 3-5
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To: HarryCaul

The only thing to do about global warming is enjoy it. It is a completely natural part of the earth's long term climate cycle (of ice ages followed by tropical weather).
All the hype is just a result of the socialists taking a completely natural but little understood and ambiguous natural phenomena and using it to sway opinion and push a socialist agenda. Kyoto is their manifesto and global redistribution of wealth is their goal. Everything else is just arguement and chaff.


70 posted on 02/06/2007 4:23:23 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Coyoteman

If it gets warmer then there will be more evaporation. That makes more clouds. Clouds reflect sunlight. It gets cooler. That's how the cycle works.

Sea levels will rise some, but there will be musch more precipitation over land. This is good for growing things!


71 posted on 02/06/2007 4:48:04 AM PST by BillM
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To: fzx12345; NewLand
fzx is correct. These are not *findings*, they are, instead, the admittedly edited conclusions of the entire science report made by bureaucrats at the UN.

In May (surprisingly, when it is Spring and therefore warmer), the entire science report will be released. After 3 months of hype, I predict no one will actually read the report or publish its findings, which are rumored to actually have backed off from the more horrendous *conclusions* of the previous report (predicted temperature rise is w/in a smaller range, as is the ocean rise prediction).

These bureaucrats are looking for a hook on which to hang Global Governance, UN power and global taxation authority. The taxes would come from the developed West and go to the developing/underdeveloped nations. The history of these people and massive amounts of money all shows the money ends up in the pockets of the elites and nothing is ever done for "the people".

For once, there really IS a conspiracy and it is being played out in full public view.The goal is to end capitalism and to make the West, specifically America, as poor as possible, while transferring America's capital to the incompetent. There are so many incompetents, that any "democratic" approach is already skewed in favor of robbing America and the developed West, excluding the saintly EU, of course.

Below is an email we received from a science writer in NZ:

" I had a casual, Friday happy-hour meeting with a number of scientists from one of our main government[1] research institutes, the one that does geological, geophysical and nuclear science? We got to talking about global warming and climate change -- in which many of their science projects and scientists are involved. None of the scientists present was a global warming or related field scientist. I said something like I thought that the science of most of these doom scenarios, and the IPCC process itself, was faulty because it didn't follow the scientific method, even though peer-reviewed, in that it wasn't ever challenged, internally or externally. Heads nodding or shaking with agreement and disgust all around, wry smiles, grimaces, and one guy said, right on: they leave out the falsifiability requirement. I was too polite to challenge them as to why they don't speak out; a lot of their institute's income comes from climate change science. "

[1] They're technically independent now and only get a portion of their money from government directly for "blue-sky" science; the rest is contestable and mostly from the private sector and other government agencies that have to buy it from from them. So they're considerably market-driven.
72 posted on 02/06/2007 5:33:09 AM PST by reformedliberal ("Eliminate the mullahs and Islam shall disappear in fifty years." Ayatollah Khomeini)
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To: Francis McClobber

bump for later reading.


73 posted on 02/06/2007 6:16:42 AM PST by Francis McClobber
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To: Cobra64

Most ot this talk implies that C02 is stable, but photosynthesis must break the carbon oxygen bonds. Does anything else?


74 posted on 02/06/2007 7:45:02 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: HarryCaul
Scientists Now Predict Global Yellowing

Scientist Geoffrey Chaumers points out that there is nothing that can be done about this and that the consequences are sure to be disastrous. “Global Warming will seem like a picnic compared to the effect this will have on the world. Everything will be perceptively yellow to the human eye - even snow - the implications are staggering.”

75 posted on 02/06/2007 8:02:31 AM PST by QuiMundus (Learn, Act, Educate, Repeat - http://www.AnAmericanFirst.com)
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To: Foolsgold
send me an email and tell me the results. ----- no time for an email. Water is up to the monitor now and I don't think I'll make it before the computer shorts out. Help, Help!!!!!
76 posted on 02/06/2007 8:47:40 AM PST by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: TigersEye

"...it would be $12 trillion for absolutely nothing."

Exactly right!!


77 posted on 02/06/2007 9:00:15 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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