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LIVE THREAD: Rudy on H&C

Posted on 02/05/2007 6:00:44 PM PST by Howlin

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To: BunnySlippers
Opening Remarks to the N.A.R.A.L. "Champions of Choice" Lunch
(Archives of Rudolph W. Giuliani, 107th Mayor) ^ | The Yale Club, Thursday, April 5th, 2001

Posted on 02/02/2007 9:55:01 PM PST by narses

As Delivered

Thank you very much for inviting me to say a few words of welcome. This event shows that people of different political parties and different political thinking can unite in support of choice. In doing so, we are upholding a distinguished tradition that began in our city starting with the work of Margaret Sanger and the movement for reproductive freedom that began in the early decades of the 20th century.

As a Republican who supports a woman's right to choose, it is particularly an honor to be here. And I would like to explain, just for one moment, why I believe being in favor of choice is consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. In fact, it might be more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. Because the Republican Party stands for the idea that you have to restore more freedom of choice, more opportunity, more opportunity for people to make their own choices rather than the government dictating those choices. Republicans stand for lower taxation because we believe that people can make better choices with their money than the government will make for them, and that ultimately frees the economy and produces more political freedom. We believe that, yes, government is important, but that the private sector is actually more important in solving our problems.

So it is consistent with that philosophy to believe that in the most personal and difficult choices that a woman has to make with regard to a pregnancy, those choices should be made based on that person's conscience and that person's way of thinking and feeling. The government shouldn't dictate that choice by making it a crime or making it illegal.

I think that's actually a much more consistent position. Many Republicans support that position, but you don't hear that as often. For example, in a recent poll by American Viewpoint, 65 percent of Republicans supported changing the plank in the Republican platform that calls for a constitutional ban on abortion. That's 6.5 out of every 10 Republicans. And over 80 percent of Republicans believe that the decision with regard to an abortion should be made by a woman, her doctor, and her family rather than dictated by the government.

[Applause]

In any case, I just wanted you to know that many of my fellow Republicans stand with you on this issue. So I thank you, I thank NARAL for taking the lead in establishing freedom of choice for all of us, and as the Mayor of New York City, I thank you for being here in New York City.

981 posted on 02/05/2007 9:22:05 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Enosh

I did. The next president of the United States.


982 posted on 02/05/2007 9:22:16 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Enosh

Mayors don't have a veto pen; at least they don't in N.Y.C.!


983 posted on 02/05/2007 9:23:46 PM PST by nopardons
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To: KsSunflower

Great news!


984 posted on 02/05/2007 9:24:00 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Newt -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

It was a good interview. Perhaps the touchiest position for me is abortion. My position on 'choice' isn't what his is, but I think his view on abortion is realistic in terms of what's possible in revising Roe, and de-federalizing the issue.


985 posted on 02/05/2007 9:24:11 PM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: narses
It appears you did not listen to tonight's speech. If you didn't, read the transcript. Paraphrasing: Rudy said that his views and beliefs changed as he grew into the job of Mayor of New York. Experience altered his viewpoints and beliefs.

If you'd stop throwing up that same old tired boiler print, listened and learned, you might...

Nevermind.

986 posted on 02/05/2007 9:24:14 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: nopardons
"If one is dead, social issues mean nothing."

See the NARAL speech. Comment. If you dare.

Opening Remarks to the N.A.R.A.L. "Champions of Choice" Lunch
(Archives of Rudolph W. Giuliani, 107th Mayor) ^ | The Yale Club, Thursday, April 5th, 2001

Posted on 02/02/2007 9:55:01 PM PST by narses

As Delivered

Thank you very much for inviting me to say a few words of welcome. This event shows that people of different political parties and different political thinking can unite in support of choice. In doing so, we are upholding a distinguished tradition that began in our city starting with the work of Margaret Sanger and the movement for reproductive freedom that began in the early decades of the 20th century.

As a Republican who supports a woman's right to choose, it is particularly an honor to be here. And I would like to explain, just for one moment, why I believe being in favor of choice is consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. In fact, it might be more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. Because the Republican Party stands for the idea that you have to restore more freedom of choice, more opportunity, more opportunity for people to make their own choices rather than the government dictating those choices. Republicans stand for lower taxation because we believe that people can make better choices with their money than the government will make for them, and that ultimately frees the economy and produces more political freedom. We believe that, yes, government is important, but that the private sector is actually more important in solving our problems.

So it is consistent with that philosophy to believe that in the most personal and difficult choices that a woman has to make with regard to a pregnancy, those choices should be made based on that person's conscience and that person's way of thinking and feeling. The government shouldn't dictate that choice by making it a crime or making it illegal.

I think that's actually a much more consistent position. Many Republicans support that position, but you don't hear that as often. For example, in a recent poll by American Viewpoint, 65 percent of Republicans supported changing the plank in the Republican platform that calls for a constitutional ban on abortion. That's 6.5 out of every 10 Republicans. And over 80 percent of Republicans believe that the decision with regard to an abortion should be made by a woman, her doctor, and her family rather than dictated by the government.

[Applause]

In any case, I just wanted you to know that many of my fellow Republicans stand with you on this issue. So I thank you, I thank NARAL for taking the lead in establishing freedom of choice for all of us, and as the Mayor of New York City, I thank you for being here in New York City.

987 posted on 02/05/2007 9:24:37 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: nopardons
Your inaccurate chart, which was made my Spiff, is inaccurate, refuted, and you need to stop spamming it to all threads!

The chart is accurate and has NOT been refuted and it deserves to be placed in every thread that mentions that pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-amnesty, pro-gun confiscation, serial adulterer, pro-openly gay military, anti-second amendment liberal north east RINO lawyer. The reason that you hate it so much is that it expertly exposes Giuliani for the anti-Republican liberal that he is.

988 posted on 02/05/2007 9:24:44 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: DocH

Since you weren't specific, I gather you're asking for links to my posts about Reagan signing abortion legislation and advocating for the passage of the Brady Bill.

Reagan signs most liberal abortion legislation in the nation at the time:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/6/10/160456.shtml

Reagan advocates for passage of Brady Bill:

http://www.totse.com/en/politics/right_to_keep_and_bear_arms/ronshelp.html


989 posted on 02/05/2007 9:25:20 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I just watched the replay. He said he is for domestic partner law and for gays to have equal rights...are you against that?


990 posted on 02/05/2007 9:25:35 PM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: Cobra64

Politicians in search of office lie. Rudy has made solemn vows to three women. Two of them he has discarded. He is a liar. He is a corrupt RINO.


991 posted on 02/05/2007 9:25:38 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: PhiKapMom

Not if one is an anti-Rudyite here, evidently.


992 posted on 02/05/2007 9:25:40 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

The spammer in chief is at it again. This time the tricks are not working to move us to the Smokey Backroom.


993 posted on 02/05/2007 9:25:55 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Newt -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: narses

Hi!

Are you home? LOL!


994 posted on 02/05/2007 9:26:04 PM PST by baubau (Indefatigable Rudy!)
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To: BunnySlippers
The next president of the United States.

Over Hillary's cold, dead, political fingers, and that's the only way.

995 posted on 02/05/2007 9:26:15 PM PST by Enosh
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To: Spiff; nopardons
Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue
Giuliani Clinton Dem Platform GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion Supports
Opposed
NY ban
Supports Supports Opposes
Roe v. Wade Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment Opposes Opposes Opposes
Defined at
state level
Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/
Civil Unions
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Openly Gay Military Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship
for Illegal Aliens
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Tough Penalties for
Employers of Illegal Aliens
Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Sanctuary Cities/
Ignoring Immigration Law
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment Opposes
Opposes Opposes
Supports bans
Supports
Confiscating Guns Supports
Confiscated
as mayor.
Even bragged.
Supports Supports
Supports bans
Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban Supports Supports Supports  
Frivolous Lawsuits
Against Gun Makers
Supports
Filed One
Himself
Supports   Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses Supports Supports   Opposes
War in Afghanistan Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports Supports
War in Iraq Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports
Weak support
Supports
Patriot Act Supports Supports
Voted for it
2001 & 2006
Opposes Supports
"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani

Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it.
Rudy Giuliani

996 posted on 02/05/2007 9:26:23 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: narses

Nice pic. People need to see it. According to a USA Today poll, barely one in five Republicans knew that he supports abortion rights and civil unions for same-sex couples. Nearly as many thought he was "pro-life" as said he was "pro-choice." Their opinions changed greatly once they learned about his actions and statements.


Tonight would have been a good night to have Ann Coulter as the guest host on H&C.


997 posted on 02/05/2007 9:26:44 PM PST by FreeInWV
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To: nopardons

Better red than dead, eh?


998 posted on 02/05/2007 9:27:00 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Delphinium

Yes, I've read the vanities. I also read a vanity by JR before the November election that said the WOT and national security were the most important items and I agree with THAT.

Social issues should be left to the states.


999 posted on 02/05/2007 9:27:00 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: narses

LIBERALS are afraid oif Rudy just like you are and for the same reasons ... he's gonna WIN.

You mught want to reconsider your allies. LOL!


1,000 posted on 02/05/2007 9:27:02 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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