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1 posted on 02/04/2007 10:00:43 AM PST by BillM
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2 posted on 02/04/2007 10:12:15 AM PST by SouthTexas (It's snowing in Texas, where is OUR global warming?)
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To: BillM

Don't look for this on the nightly news. Good post.


3 posted on 02/04/2007 10:13:02 AM PST by highimpact
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Just a few of the things that have been attributed to global warming without any scientific foundation:

1. Crime
2. Malaria
3. Hurricanes
4. Tsunamis
5. Endangering Polar Bears.

4 posted on 02/04/2007 10:13:56 AM PST by Always Right
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The real deal?

Against the grain: Some scientists deny global warming exists
Lawrence Solomon, National PostPublished: Friday, February 02, 2007
Astrophysicist Nir Shariv, one of Israel's top young scientists, describes the logic that led him -- and most everyone else -- to conclude that SUVs, coal plants and other things man-made cause global warming.

Step One Scientists for decades have postulated that increases in carbon dioxide and other gases could lead to a greenhouse effect.

Step Two As if on cue, the temperature rose over the course of the 20th century while greenhouse gases proliferated due to human activities.

Step Three No other mechanism explains the warming. Without another candidate, greenhouses gases necessarily became the cause.

Dr. Shariv, a prolific researcher who has made a name for himself assessing the movements of two-billion-year-old meteorites, no longer accepts this logic, or subscribes to these views. He has recanted: "Like many others, I was personally sure that CO2 is the bad culprit in the story of global warming. But after carefully digging into the evidence, I realized that things are far more complicated than the story sold to us by many climate scientists or the stories regurgitated by the media.

"In fact, there is much more than meets the eye."

Dr. Shariv's digging led him to the surprising discovery that there is no concrete evidence -- only speculation -- that man-made greenhouse gases cause global warming. Even research from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change-- the United Nations agency that heads the worldwide effort to combat global warming -- is bereft of anything here inspiring confidence. In fact, according to the IPCC's own findings, man's role is so uncertain that there is a strong possibility that we have been cooling, not warming, the Earth. Unfortunately, our tools are too crude to reveal what man's effect has been in the past, let alone predict how much warming or cooling we might cause in the future.

All we have on which to pin the blame on greenhouse gases, says Dr. Shaviv, is "incriminating circumstantial evidence," which explains why climate scientists speak in terms of finding "evidence of fingerprints." Circumstantial evidence might be a fine basis on which to justify reducing greenhouse gases, he adds, "without other 'suspects.' " However, Dr. Shaviv not only believes there are credible "other suspects," he believes that at least one provides a superior explanation for the 20th century's warming.

"Solar activity can explain a large part of the 20th-century global warming," he states, particularly because of the evidence that has been accumulating over the past decade of the strong relationship that cosmic- ray flux has on our atmosphere. So much evidence has by now been amassed, in fact, that "it is unlikely that [the solar climate link] does not exist."

The sun's strong role indicates that greenhouse gases can't have much of an influence on the climate -- that C02 et al. don't dominate through some kind of leveraging effect that makes them especially potent drivers of climate change. The upshot of the Earth not being unduly sensitive to greenhouse gases is that neither increases nor cutbacks in future C02 emissions will matter much in terms of the climate.

Even doubling the amount of CO2 by 2100, for example, "will not dramatically increase the global temperature," Dr. Shaviv states. Put another way: "Even if we halved the CO2 output, and the CO2 increase by 2100 would be, say, a 50% increase relative to today instead of a doubled amount, the expected reduction in the rise of global temperature would be less than 0.5C. This is not significant."

The evidence from astrophysicists and cosmologists in laboratories around the world, on the other hand, could well be significant. In his study of meteorites, published in the prestigious journal, Physical Review Letters, Dr. Shaviv found that the meteorites that Earth collected during its passage through the arms of the Milky Way sustained up to 10% more cosmic ray damage than others. That kind of cosmic ray variation, Dr. Shaviv believes, could alter global temperatures by as much as 15% --sufficient to turn the ice ages on or off and evidence of the extent to which cosmic forces influence Earth's climate.

In another study, directly relevant to today's climate controversy, Dr. Shaviv reconstructed the temperature on Earth over the past 550 million years to find that cosmic ray flux variations explain more than two-thirds of Earth's temperature variance, making it the most dominant climate driver over geological time scales. The study also found that an upper limit can be placed on the relative role of CO2 as a climate driver, meaning that a large fraction of the global warming witnessed over the past century could not be due to CO2 -- instead it is attributable to the increased solar activity.

CO2 does play a role in climate, Dr. Shaviv believes, but a secondary role, one too small to preoccupy policymakers. Yet Dr. Shaviv also believes fossil fuels should be controlled, not because of their adverse affects on climate but to curb pollution.

"I am therefore in favour of developing cheap alternatives such as solar power, wind, and of course fusion reactors (converting Deuterium into Helium), which we should have in a few decades, but this is an altogether different issue." His conclusion: "I am quite sure Kyoto is not the right way to go."


5 posted on 02/04/2007 10:15:58 AM PST by Vinomori
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1000–500 mb temperature anomalies for June, July, and August 2003. Areas exceeding 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0 standard deviations from the 1979–2003 mean are contoured.

6 posted on 02/04/2007 10:20:34 AM PST by concentric circles
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7 posted on 02/04/2007 10:21:52 AM PST by Shimmer128 (30 below to 300 degrees in seconds.)
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Don't give this report to Feingold and his friends in the Senate (inlcuding some RINOs), they will seek to suppress it as they are any science that disagrees with "human caused" "Global Warming".


8 posted on 02/04/2007 10:22:49 AM PST by Wuli
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Guess maybe these "Experts" might bother to do even a bare minimum of historic research?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period


9 posted on 02/04/2007 10:26:29 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( If they say "speaking truth to power,"-they haven't had a l thought since the Beatles broke up)
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I find these politically motivated skeptics just as irritating as the politically motivated proponents.


14 posted on 02/04/2007 10:54:03 AM PST by edsheppa
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To: All; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody

FReepmail me to get on or off


15 posted on 02/04/2007 10:58:20 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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19 posted on 02/04/2007 11:05:36 AM PST by TX Bluebonnet
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Not to get off subject, but where I live, today it will be a high of.....*ta da*.....3 frickin degrees. Lake Michigan is having seizures as it is trying to freeze over.

Due to.........

*drum roll*

Global warming!!!!!!

What a theory......

20 posted on 02/04/2007 11:06:30 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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23 posted on 02/04/2007 11:30:09 AM PST by UnklGene
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Every time Hillary opens her big mouth a huge chunk of ice breaks off the polar cap and begins to melt . Now I ask YOU , what is the cure ???


25 posted on 02/04/2007 11:40:23 AM PST by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. stands for -------- Islams Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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27 posted on 02/04/2007 12:51:29 PM PST by TwoSue
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