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Evidence says gun laws don't work
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | February 1, 2007 | MICHAEL S. BROWN

Posted on 02/01/2007 9:21:51 AM PST by neverdem

The anti-gun op-ed by Dr. Clifford M. Herman ("Bowing down to NRA is dangerous," Jan. 23) certainly fits in with the renewed push by the P-I for more gun laws. As with previous articles, this one demonizes the NRA, offers anecdotal insights and questions the meaning of the Second Amendment. What it does not do is address the essential question.

Honest legislators must ask: Which gun laws, if any, will truly reduce violence? Thanks to the Clinton administration and the Centers for Disease Control, we have a pretty good idea. A group of scientists reviewed the extensive literature on the effectiveness of gun laws and released its report in 2003. With so many gun laws enacted in the latter half of the 20th century, there were numerous examples to study, but they were unable to find convincing evidence that any gun laws have ever been effective.

Their search included Herman's 1988 Seattle-Vancouver study. Given that Herman is vociferously anti-gun, what are the chances that his study was scientifically sound and unbiased? That's right, and virtually every anti-gun study ever done was created by the same kind of people and funded by openly anti-gun foundations. Their built-in bias makes them useless for public policy debate.

Washingtonians are not stupid. We are aware that gun laws have failed miserably wherever they have been tried. Anyone who knows how to visit the FBI Web site can tell you that the most dangerous places in the United States often are the places with the strictest gun laws. Gun laws overseas have been no more successful. Asking the Legislature to give us more is a colossal waste of time and an insult to our intelligence.

The real reason for the resurgence of anti-gun rhetoric is a long-running culture war between the two sides of the gun debate. From 1994 until the 2006 elections, the once powerful gun control lobby got kicked around by the NRA. Now that they have new friends in office, they want some payback.

Knowing that gun laws don't work, what is the anti-gun lobby to do with its renewed political influence? Here in Washington, it is promoting a bill that will end private sales of guns at gun shows. But wait, the Department of Justice tells us that less than 1 percent of crime guns were purchased at gun shows, so why support such a useless law? The answer, in a word, is payback.

You see, although gun shows are not a significant source of crime guns, they are both a tool and symbol of the gun rights movement. People gather to discuss their hobby, curse the gun grabbers and enjoy spirited haggling over the price of treasured objects. They also recruit new members and raise funds for gun rights organizations. What better target for the wrath of those who despise guns and gun owners?

The concept of reducing violence by passing gun laws is a fallacy, as evidenced by several decades of failure. The only proven solution is to put criminals in prison and keep them there as long as you can. This is not a popular way to spend tax dollars, hence the opening for culture warriors to hijack the lawmaking process for their own ends.

Michael S. Brown, O.D., of Vancouver is a member of Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws; www.dsgl.org.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 02/01/2007 9:21:55 AM PST by neverdem
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To: BADROTOFINGER; Baynative

WA ping request -- and some sense printed in the P-U???


2 posted on 02/01/2007 9:26:02 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: neverdem

Evidence? We don't need no steenking evidence!.......

3 posted on 02/01/2007 9:27:59 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: neverdem

In other news...

Bears Sh*t in the Woods


4 posted on 02/01/2007 9:31:25 AM PST by RockinRight (What I want in '08: Gingrich's politics, Reagan's appeal, and Tancredo's immigration stance.)
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To: sionnsar
and some sense printed in the P-U???

Yes, and found where such sense is usually found, in the Guest Editorial section.

5 posted on 02/01/2007 9:31:55 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Red Badger

6 posted on 02/01/2007 9:32:19 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: neverdem

Somehow, I just knew you'd find a way to brighten up my day...;-)


7 posted on 02/01/2007 9:33:15 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: neverdem

DUH alert...


8 posted on 02/01/2007 9:35:02 AM PST by LIConFem
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To: Joe Brower
"Bowing down to NRA is dangerous"

This is exactly what I was afraid would happen. Since the elections last November, they have been coming out of the woodwork.

9 posted on 02/01/2007 9:37:19 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Mercy! Mercy! Mercy!

Good reading here. Sounds like a Peyton Manning touchdown completion in here.


10 posted on 02/01/2007 9:38:58 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (No to nitwit jesters with a predisposition of self importance and unqualified political opinions!)
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To: LIConFem

That is an excellent LTE: concise and insightful. Way to go, Dr. Brown.

TC


11 posted on 02/01/2007 9:41:21 AM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: neverdem

Captain Obvious to the rescue....


12 posted on 02/01/2007 9:45:43 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: neverdem

In other words: Criminals don't obey laws. That's why they're called criminals.

Please explain how a gun control law is anything other than a safety-in-the-workplace law for criminals.


13 posted on 02/01/2007 10:22:18 AM PST by OldTypeAmerican (Better to die on your feet like a man than to live on your knees as a slave.)
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To: neverdem

"This is exactly what I was afraid would happen. Since the elections last November, they have been coming out of the woodwork."

Boy is that the truth. In Maine the Portland Press Herald ran more gun stories (all anti) in the two months after the election, than they had in the previous 2 years.


14 posted on 02/01/2007 10:50:02 AM PST by Jim Verdolini
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To: neverdem

Could they have a point??

Lessee . . . . there are over 20,000 guns laws actively on the books in the US . . . um hum . . . . . . 20,000!!??

And not one single gun law is going to stop the next murder, rape or robbery.

It took a STUDY to figure this out!!!???

Progressives ain't too smart if they need a study to tell them what's in front of their face!!!


15 posted on 02/01/2007 11:18:46 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: neverdem; Maynerd; Bobsvainbabblings; moneypenny; Kaylee Frye; Clintonfatigued; wallcrawlr; ...

WA State Ping...JFK


16 posted on 02/01/2007 9:20:59 PM PST by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: neverdem

bttt


17 posted on 02/01/2007 9:24:10 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
"Which gun laws, if any, will truly reduce violence?"

Answer: None. But we knew that already. If simply passing laws was the key, simply outlawing murder would do the job.

The answer here is, as always and as found in so many other places, a return to moral character, and a complete abandonment of the PC happy-crap that has not just allowed the weeds to grow over the last fifty years, but actually nurtured them.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

18 posted on 02/02/2007 5:44:56 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have two speeds: "graze" and "stampede".)
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To: Joe Brower

BTTT


19 posted on 02/02/2007 6:24:00 AM PST by Gritty (Piss on golf. Real Americans go to the range. - LTC Dave Grossman, Self-Defense Expert)
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To: Joe Brower; B4Ranch; Pete-R-Bilt; tubebender; NormsRevenge

Well said sir.


20 posted on 02/02/2007 9:35:16 AM PST by glock rocks (shoot fast. shoot straight. shoot safe. practice. carry.)
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