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1 posted on 01/31/2007 8:05:19 AM PST by Jean S
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I have first hand experience with the "better" bulbs they are describing.

A client of mine is an ardent enviro. He purchased these bulbs for every fixture in his small- 20 x 20 office where 3 or 4 people worked on engineering details and bookkeeping. They cost upwards of $7 each. None of them lasted for even a year, and they were only on from about 8:15 am to 5 PM, mostly in the winter months. He could be a real tightwad about the power bill, discarding the impending blindness of employees.
By any measure, these bulbs definately did NOT last longer. I don't know if they truly lowered the power bill, as he would selectively turn lights on/off, so I couldn't get a handle on a cross measurement. I do know the $7 bul;bs were purchased far oftened than I do at home, where I often had lights on for over 16 hours at a stretch, doing bookkeeping for my clients.
I think changing over should totally be voluntary. If the government can dictate what light bulbs we have, where does it end? This cannot be a Homeland Security issue. This is just a control issue. More stupidity out of Kalifornia.
Wanna bet me that most of the lights in traffic control are the old style? How about them being changed? OH- right- not bright enough to meet "their standards".


41 posted on 01/31/2007 9:43:10 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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I can see it now...the state police rounding up Walmart managers for stocking incandescents and ignoring illegal aliens/terrorists...


44 posted on 01/31/2007 9:46:59 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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What are they planning as a substitute for the incandescent bulb? Fluorescent.
California is already the fruitcake state with unreasonable restrictions on chemicals and waste. Do you think they know that a fluorescent bulb has MERCURY in it in order to make it work?


45 posted on 01/31/2007 9:48:35 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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Save me as much as $72 per bulb after 5 years?

If the bulbs last only 4 months each,(which they did at a client's office) that is 3 bulbs a year for 5 years = 15 bulbs @ $7 ea= $105 over 5 years, which puts me $27 into the hole for EACH light fixture I am putting a bulb into. I just counted 35 regular lights in this house, a twin bulb flourescent lamp, 2 small mini bulb reading lamps, and the "can lights" in the kitchen=10. 45 lights over 5 years @ a loss of $27 eash would cost me $1215 total, which is far more than one month of soc sec money I currently collect. The math just doesn't work.
Besides, where is all this production going to come from?
Kalifornia needs to get out of people private lives. No wonder residents are fleeing.


46 posted on 01/31/2007 9:49:26 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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Good luck Calee-forneeah! My experience with the compact flourescent bulbs is not a good one.
First complaint with them is:
They do not perform well in un-heated areas (garages,laundry rooms, outdoors) they burn out very quickly in cold areas.

Second:
The life expectancy claims made by the manufacturers seem to be highly exagerated. I have never had one florescent bulb last 7 years in order to amortize the added expense of them towards the "energy savings".

What are your opinions on these lamps?

50 posted on 01/31/2007 9:55:35 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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Can expel the PRK from the Union then declare war on it?

How does the world's sixth largest economy come up with such stupid ideas?


51 posted on 01/31/2007 9:55:39 AM PST by Little Ray
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on the plus side the last productive person to leave California won't have to bother turning out the lights.
52 posted on 01/31/2007 9:56:04 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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Libs and socialist controlers advancing on all fronts, compelled lighting, Fairness Doctrine, cut and run, global warming, carbon swapping, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.


56 posted on 01/31/2007 10:01:57 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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I like those spiral bulbs, but I don't want anyone making me buy them. If this passes, next you'll have someone saying they need to raise taxes so they can purchase these more expensive bulbs for the 'poor and needy.'


60 posted on 01/31/2007 10:07:36 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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The hypocrisy of the liberals and the MSM never ceases to amaze me.
61 posted on 01/31/2007 10:08:20 AM PST by Uncle Hal
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We control your showers, faucets and toilets. Now it's time to control your light bulbs.

This is a very disturbing trend!

62 posted on 01/31/2007 10:09:58 AM PST by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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This is liberal land. Liberals actually are not liberal. They are fascist elitist dictators who want to control every aspect of life.


67 posted on 01/31/2007 10:19:46 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism = fascism)
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I suppose the incandescent bulb that has been burning continuously in a Livermore, CA firehouse for more than 100 years will now have to be destroyed. article
70 posted on 01/31/2007 10:59:35 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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Ya know, these people have WAY too much time on their hands!


71 posted on 01/31/2007 11:04:01 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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California takes yet another step towards officially becoming Mexiforniastan with this move. Soon, they will officially enter, "the dark ages."


75 posted on 01/31/2007 12:15:46 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Marxis-Dimocrats stand for everything I hate and wish to see destroyed, including them!)
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I think new advancements in LED lighting will make CFL's irrelavent in about 15 years. Some of what I have seen is very encouraging. I love the potential of LED.


91 posted on 01/31/2007 3:20:41 PM PST by Codeflier (Implement Loser Pays)
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Tonight, interiewed on KFI-640AM's "John Zeigler Show," The legislator behind this bill says it will ban sale of incandescents in CA, *not* use of them.


94 posted on 01/31/2007 7:54:08 PM PST by newzjunkey (Social Security & Mexico: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1762624/post)
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I'd like to outlaw Lloyd Levine. Not to mention the rest of his cohors in the assembly.

We need to provide power to the ever expanding population. OR, LET NO ONE ELSE MOVE HERE.

BUILD MORE POWER PLANTS.


100 posted on 03/25/2007 6:19:29 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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