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Wounded Iraq Vet Threatened, Spat on by 'Antiwar' Protesters (D.C. Chapter Report on 1/27/07)
Sunday, January 28, 2007 | Kristinn

Posted on 01/28/2007 5:37:22 PM PST by kristinn

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To: Bryan

"How do you define "politically effective"?"

Easy. The numbers of eyes and ears that are exposed to your message.


581 posted on 01/31/2007 7:05:46 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J

Power Line Blog.

Little Green Footballs.

Rush Limbaugh.

Sean Hannity.

Michael Savage.

Get the picture?


582 posted on 01/31/2007 7:10:16 PM PST by Bryan
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To: Bryan
All good but mostly preaching to the choir. These vehicles have given the right a tool it didn't have before, that being the ability to occasionally wedge information into the mainstream but the left still controls most of the organs of information dissemination that the swing voters see and hear. In case you haven't heard, it's the independents and swing voters that control who gets elected. If these entities you mentioned are so effective, why do the majority of the American people have a skewed view of what is happening in Iraq?
583 posted on 01/31/2007 7:17:31 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J; kristinn

Do you remember 2004? The insurgents were killing American soldiers and Marines. The left-wing propagandists at CNN and CBS were breathlessly reporting every drop of blood that was spilled.

At the start of the campaign season, there was Michael Moore and "Farenheit 911," a propaganda film that would have made Reifenstahl blush. And what happened? Bush was re-elected with a majority of the popular vote -- more total votes than any candidate in history.

For the second election in a row, the president's party gained seats in both houses of Congress. Nobody had done that since FDR's Democrats in the 1930s.

How did we do that? We should be able to do something like that again.


584 posted on 01/31/2007 7:21:34 PM PST by Bryan
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To: Bryan
This is why conservatives get their ass kicked when we should be winning everything.

"Do you remember 2004? The insurgents were killing American soldiers and Marines. The left-wing propagandists at CNN and CBS were breathlessly reporting every drop of blood that was spilled. At the start of the campaign season, there was Michael Moore and "Farenheit 911," a propaganda film that would have made Reifenstahl blush. And what happened? Bush was re-elected with a majority of the popular vote -- more total votes than any candidate in history."

For the same reason Clinton got reelected. Americans are basically patriotic and want to think the best of their President and military. That vote was a vote of confidence about the war in Iraq just as the most recent was a vote of no confidence. If conservatives can't understand how Americans think, feel and act, how are we going to develop winning strategies?

"For the second election in a row, the president's party gained seats in both houses of Congress. Nobody had done that since FDR's Democrats in the 1930s."

Are you referring to the 2006 vote?

"How did we do that? We should be able to do something like that again."

Okay. End the war in Iraq, wait 20 years and start a war with North Korea.
585 posted on 01/31/2007 7:29:03 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J
I am going to make one last observation and then leave.

Bob, if you won't take your own advice, why should anyone else?

586 posted on 01/31/2007 7:34:19 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ("BOAT PEOPLE" - The result of the last time the Democrats stabbed our allies in the back.)
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To: Doctor Raoul; kristinn

Good evening Doctor. Long time no see.

What do you think about OKC?


587 posted on 01/31/2007 7:37:45 PM PST by Bryan
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To: Bob J

Hi Bob J!


588 posted on 01/31/2007 7:41:54 PM PST by kristinn
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To: Bryan; Bob J; kristinn; trooprally

So when are you two going to announce your plans for your rallies? Bryan's going to do all the work to network with folks in the OK area, get the permits, line up the speakers, send out the press releases, notify the conservative media and blogs,act as media liaison,help folks with travel accomodations, right? Just the way Kristinn did for this and many other rallies in DC over the past years. Go ahead and do it Bryan, either by yourself or with the help of others. Let us know your plans too Bob J. If you're convinced multiple local rallies are the way to go, use this forum to network and to advise folks.

None of this is intended as sarcasm. Your previous posts highlight one of the major reasons we're losing this war on the homefront. (And we are losing gentleman, don't kid yourself. Repeat a lie long enough and often enough as the MSM does and people start to believe it's true. Like the lie that we lost the war in VietNam.) Very few of us are taking the responsibility for organizing even a local rally and for pushing for media coverage. We've got to stop talking and typing and we've got to hit the streets. Kristinn has been doing the best he knows how to do that. If either of you or both of you can be more effective, JUST DO IT! Stop telling him everything you think he's done wrong and provide alternatives. If you can get thousands of conservatives to show up in OK or if you can get 10 people at a thousand rallys held the same day, terrific!!! Just do it!!


589 posted on 01/31/2007 7:43:02 PM PST by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: Doctor Raoul

That wasn't advice, that was a statement. Others have chimed onto the thread and it would only be polite to respond.

Things change, go with the flow Shel.

BTW - Do you have any comments on my observations? The silence is deafening...the word must have gone out. You got one effective damage control machine there. Even Troop Rally stopped responding. I guess when the commandant barks an order better comply or there will be hell to pay.

BTW - How do you all feel at being silenced?


590 posted on 01/31/2007 7:45:26 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

At this point in time and until we chznge the media landscape, rallies are mostly a waste of time and only a feel good measure for the organizers and participants. Took me a long time and a lot of money to realize that. Ouch.

At least I can admit reality and change with it.


591 posted on 01/31/2007 7:47:33 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bryan
What do you think about OKC?

Understand your point on population distribution, but I wonder what the numbers say. Remember the red/blue map by county? It's blue in the population dense areas along the coasts, the Mississippi and Chicago/Milwalke/Detroit area.

Some other pros and cons, but let's take those offline to mail, best not to give away any good ideas out here.

Anyone who wants to help is welcome.

592 posted on 01/31/2007 7:51:15 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ("BOAT PEOPLE" - The result of the last time the Democrats stabbed our allies in the back.)
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To: Bob J
That wasn't advice, that was a statement.

OK, if you won't follow your own statement, why should anyone else?

593 posted on 01/31/2007 7:53:12 PM PST by Doctor Raoul ("BOAT PEOPLE" - The result of the last time the Democrats stabbed our allies in the back.)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ
That wasn't meant to be a dig at you. If the goal is to get in the Lefts face, show a little chutzpah and "get some in", fair enough and I might even attend.

As for me, I'm out of the rally business and only a sideline observer at FR now. I decided to go a different route (as many in the FRN did..where's Interesting Times and Nick Danger?) that I think eventually will be more effective and a better use of my time and effort.

We got tired of fighting over turf with those who were supposed to be our allies. Now we run our own shows. Easier to control the product.
594 posted on 01/31/2007 7:55:19 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Doctor Raoul

I don't expect you to. Can you handle that?


595 posted on 01/31/2007 7:58:20 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J
rallies are mostly a waste of time and only a feel good measure for the organizers and participants

I urge you to re-read posting number 463 on this thread (from USMC6869). I don't know her but she's the reason I was standing in the cold that Saturday letting the anti-war groups know they are wrong. I've been at other rallies where servicemembers, in civilian clothes, have told me that they appreciate knowing/seeing that someone is supporting them, that not everyone agrees with the moonbats. How are those servicemembers suppose to know they have our support if all they see/hear/read is about the anti-war group. If we're out there on the street too, maybe the media will give one tiny paragraph to our side. Usually not. But if just one servicemember or one of their family members is encouraged by our "boots on the ground" then the rallys aren't worthless. Going to these rallys isn't about me--it's about the troops.

Again, if you can achieve a more positive result doing something else, terrific. Again, that isn't sarcasm. I'll try to spread the word in my area about whatever it is that you're trying to do to show support for the troops. Just don't be dismissive of other efforts to support the troops. Kristinn's anger is directed at people who won't do anything unless it's convenient and fits into their schedule.

596 posted on 01/31/2007 8:07:04 PM PST by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

You are a jewel.


597 posted on 01/31/2007 8:15:51 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

"Kristinn's anger is directed at people who won't do anything unless it's convenient and fits into their schedule."

Than do something that is convenient and fits in their schedule. Tis better to light one candle than curse the darkness.


598 posted on 01/31/2007 8:18:12 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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Than do something that is convenient and fits in their schedule

I guess that means Disney World during spring break???? :-)

599 posted on 01/31/2007 8:25:32 PM PST by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

No, it means doing something near their hometown on a weekend.


600 posted on 01/31/2007 8:29:53 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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