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Bacteria In Staph Infections Can Cause Necrotizing Pneumonia (MRSA)
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| 1-28-2007
| Texas A&M
Posted on 01/28/2007 4:09:37 PM PST by blam
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To: mad_as_he$$
I believe MRSA will survive on a stainless steel surface for days. On copper it has a life expectancy of about 90 minutes.
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posted on
01/28/2007 7:35:49 PM PST
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: GulfWar1Vet
What does the staph look like? I never use flip flops but no problem yet. Just lucky?
To: nmh
Staph is very dangerous and people don't realize it - that is most people. I spent 6 years working in nursing homes in building maintenance. The last place had us boxing up the red bags to ship off. People laughed when I suited up with some rigged up protection including wearing a garbage bag. Staph is something nobody who works in health care related areas wants to catch nor do most wish to spread it around. Every night when I came home from work my clothes went in the washer with Pine Sol added. Between Staph, TB, and persons with Syphilis, etc you were wise to be careful.
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posted on
01/28/2007 7:43:43 PM PST
by
cva66snipe
(If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
To: mad_as_he$$
For nasal infections there was a statistically significant change. For skin lesions there wasn't a statistically significant difference. And that's in a study that isn't double-blind, although it is randomized.
Look, it bears further study, but that "study" is in no way conclusive of anything. I see "studies" like that every day, mostly from drug companies. Unlike many others, I insist on the methodology and statistical results. And, if you like, I can give you more ammunition, going on all night about the BS--for the profit motive. But this study is a lot the same way of a lot of others.
But to say hospitals deliberately omit effective treatments to generate business is, as I said above, lunacy. It's quite the opposite--expensive, unproven therapies and techniques are all too often used in a desperate attempt to stop exactly this phenomenon. Witness USP 797.
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posted on
01/28/2007 7:46:54 PM PST
by
jammer
To: mad_as_he$$
It works really well and in a pinch I have just grabbed a perfume I didn't care for and sprayed them. I have 5 dogs. 4 are shih tzu's I breed and one is a peka-shih. I hate when they get wet and smell like dogs lmao. Since they require a lot of grooming time I try to find ways to cut the time even a little. Keeping a puppy cut on them helps. ~~Pandora~~
65
posted on
01/28/2007 7:47:13 PM PST
by
pandoraou812
( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ......efg and dilligaf?)
To: mariabush
My grandmother used to pour turpentine or coal oil on our cuts. Worked every time.IIRC it will draw a splinter out of your finger, too. My Dad thought quinine, turpentine and coal oil would cure almost anything. A hot toddy was a good cure all as well.
66
posted on
01/28/2007 7:49:10 PM PST
by
jamaly
(I evacuate early and often!)
To: neverdem
67
posted on
01/28/2007 7:56:25 PM PST
by
raybbr
(You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
To: nmh
I used to send in that Antibacterial water-less cleaner with my daughter to school. After she was getting sick anyway the doctor told me it didn't work. I am constantly wiping off door knobs. Bathroom doorknobs and sink drains are full of germs. I drive everyone crazy by saying wash your hands all the time. I also use a lye soap my friend makes for cleaning and regular store brand bleach.
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posted on
01/28/2007 8:01:30 PM PST
by
pandoraou812
( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ......efg and dilligaf?)
To: skippermd
I don't know of any charging $7 per tylenol (and I know of the price of Tylenol in about 50 hospitals throughout the US), although I am sure there are some.
The problem (besides government) is that healthcare was, until TEFRA in 1983, by far the worst managed industry in the US. It is still poorly managed. The problem in this specific case is the poor (or maybe accurate, take your pick) cost allocation. Sure, Tylenol costs $ 0.10 or whatever at the drugstore. But in the hospital, much more goes into the "cost", not just the cost-of-goods sold. At home, you procure it yourself, you dispense it yourself, you unwrap it yourself, you administer it to yourself, you don't keep and store written records of it, you don't study it in committee after committee, you don't pay insurance for giving yourself the wrong thing, and at home, you've paid for it--you don't have bad debts, etc.
That doesn't excuse a large component of the higher price, but let's face it--in almost all cases this is "soft" money for which the hospital won't get reimbursed anyway, whether it charges $ 0.05 or $ 1,000 for the same $ 0.10 tablet. And some other drugs have a much higher component cost with respect to the actual cost-of-good sold.
With respect to lunches for Docs, I totally agree with you. I think it's unethical to offer or to accept (I'm old enough to remember when it was really bad). None of my people (we are not physicians) is allowed to accept ANYTHING free, including ball-point pens. And when I go to, say, antibiotic conferences, I decline all airfare, meal costs, and hotel accommodation reimbursement. The drug companies think I'm crazy (I may be, but this isn't proof of it). I pay for it myself simply so there is absolutely no question of ethics. I am continually being accused of being a prig, but that's what I have to be to live with myself.
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posted on
01/28/2007 8:01:54 PM PST
by
jammer
To: PGalt; LucyT
"Thanks for posting. Thanks to all contributors to this thread. BTTT!" You're welcome and I thank everyone for their input on this subject. Scary.
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posted on
01/28/2007 8:14:02 PM PST
by
blam
To: xarmydog
After two or more months of frustration, thousands of needlessly spent dollars, pain, fear that the infection would spread to me, he has finally gotten some relief and is on the mend.
I never thought about the fact that the infection might come back.
My husband has melanoma and his immune system is pretty weak, as he is on oral chemo.
I hate it that your wife had to go through all of this mess, but it is good to know that we were not going crazy, and others were experiencing the same maltreatment.
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posted on
01/28/2007 8:16:42 PM PST
by
Coldwater Creek
(The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
To: nmh
We kept telling the Dr's that we were afraid of staph, and no one did anything, except prescribing another antibiotic. Finally a GP that the home health nurses found for us realized that we were in trouble, and gave my husband some Sulfa drugs.
By then what started out as an ingrown hair in a cyst on the back of his leg was full of corruption and the cancer Dr. would not allow surgery to remove it. He had to endure the GP mashing on the site without the benefit of deadening for over 45 minutes.
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posted on
01/28/2007 8:24:09 PM PST
by
Coldwater Creek
(The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
To: The Duke
"To me the answers are clearly procedural. Anti-bacterial measures during hospital admittance, the return of the "house call", and probably numerous other common-sense measures." I think neckties for doctors in the UK hospitals have now been banned. They are feared to be transmitters of MRSA.
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posted on
01/28/2007 8:24:59 PM PST
by
blam
To: KeepUSfree; pandoraou812
"She probably NEVER had ANY spider bites.... it was all MSRA. One of the most common initial symptoms of MSRA are unexplained "spider bites" on the skin - usually mis-diagnosed by Doctors."That was my first thought too.
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posted on
01/28/2007 8:39:09 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
I have a friend who at 65 was still playing competitive softball. He was the model for a healthy life. He went in for a routine knee operation, got a staph infection and nearly died. It took him almost a year to get over it. It also caused some other medical problems he now has to deal with.
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posted on
01/28/2007 8:43:43 PM PST
by
TheLion
(How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
To: skippermd
Navy Dr's. are my hero's. Three years ago, I had double pneumonia, and no insurance. A Navy doc treated me and did not charge me except for the x-ray.
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posted on
01/28/2007 8:47:50 PM PST
by
Coldwater Creek
(The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
To: GulfWar1Vet
If they have hot-tubs, don't use themWhat evidence do you have that they spread infection?
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posted on
01/28/2007 8:49:47 PM PST
by
at bay
("We actually did an evil....." Eric Schmidt, CEO Google)
To: blam
She knew she had been bitten. The beach patrol was warned spiders were under the boardwalk. She didn't seek medical care right away. Spiders were never a thing we worried about here in NJ...(one of the few things lol.) But it was a spider bite and then the other stuff came along. She was in the hospital for over a month. The sad part was I couldn't see her as I have hep c and they were afraid with a lowered immune system I would get it. MRSA is nothing to fool around with. Nor are spider bites.
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posted on
01/28/2007 8:53:41 PM PST
by
pandoraou812
( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ......efg and dilligaf?)
To: blam
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posted on
01/28/2007 9:03:04 PM PST
by
DocRock
(Nuke 'em till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark)
To: mariabush
My brother had surgery in October; was doing well, doctors even talked about him going home early. Then, he started having breathing problems, and, finally, he contracted a staph infection. That was what he died of Dec. 29th.
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posted on
01/28/2007 9:04:30 PM PST
by
Humal
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