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Virginia: "Slavery apology measure ignites legislative debate"
The Daily Progress ^ | January 16, 2007 | Bob Gibson

Posted on 01/17/2007 7:10:30 AM PST by yankeedame

Slavery apology measure ignites legislative debate

By Bob Gibson / bgibson@dailyprogress.com | 978-7243
January 16, 2007

Should Virginia apologize?

RICHMOND - A resolution to have Virginia apologize for slavery will encounter some opposition in the House of Delegates this month, according to legislators.

The highly symbolic issue likely to spark debate is a proposed state apology for African enslavement sponsored by black Virginia lawmakers, at least two of whom are descended from slaves.

“It is meant to be a resolution that is part of a healing process, a process that still needs to take place even today in 2007,” said one sponsor, Del. A. Donald McEachin, D-Henrico County.

“No one is asking any individual to apologize, because certainly there are no slaveholders alive today and there are no slaves alive today,” said McEachin, whose great-grandfather was born a slave.

“But Virginia is alive and well, and Virginia was built on the backs of slaves, and Virginia’s economy boomed because of slavery, and it is Virginia that ought to apologize,” he said.

Some delegates believe an apology is unnecessary and a sign of too much political correctness.

“The present commonwealth has nothing to do with slavery,” said Del. Frank D. Hargrove, R-Glen Allen, whose ancestors were French Huguenots who came to America in search of religious freedom.

How far do these calls for apologies go, wondered Hargrove, a member of the House Rules Committee that could take up McEachin’s resolution as early as Wednesday.

“Are we going to force the Jews to apologize for killing Christ?” Hargrove wondered. “Nobody living today had anything to do with it. It would be far more appropriate in my view to apologize to the Upper Mattaponi and the Pamunkey” Indians for the loss of their lands in eastern Virginia, he said.

A similar request for an apology to Virginia Indians is planned, McEachin said

Virginia, which received its first slaves at Jamestown in 1619, would be the first state to formally apologize for slavery.

Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, a Richmond Democrat, apologized for slavery while mayor of Richmond, said Kevin Hall, Kaine’s press secretary. “He wouldn’t necessarily be opposed to it and certainly he’s got a history of being able to act while in office,” Hall said. A governor’s approval is not required for passage of a joint legislative resolution.

Hargrove said raising the issue is not only symbolic, but “I think it’s counterproductive.” Other Republican delegates kept their views off the record.

“I personally think that our black citizens should get over it,” Hargrove said of slavery, which existed in Virginia from 1619 until the Civil War. “By golly, we’re living in 2007.”

“Nobody can justify slavery today, but it’s counterproductive to dwell on that,” Hargrove said. “Political correctness has kind of gotten us into this area.”

Any pollster would learn that “you couldn’t find a tenth of 1 percent [of Virginians] who said slavery is a good institution,” said Hargrove, who has represented Hanover County in the House of Delegates since 1982.

Sen. R. Creigh Deeds, D-Bath County, said the issue is symbolic but that from 1619 to 1863 many Virginians were denied their citizenship.

“I think it’s appropriate and I am going to vote for it,” Deeds said.


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1 posted on 01/17/2007 7:10:32 AM PST by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame

Hopefully Portugal and other countries will be doing their part in the Euro Parliament, as well.


2 posted on 01/17/2007 7:11:46 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: yankeedame
“But Virginia is alive and well, and Virginia was built on the backs of slaves, and Virginia’s economy boomed because of slavery, and it is Virginia that ought to apologize,” he said.

AND - the next step will then be, logically, REPARATIONS!

3 posted on 01/17/2007 7:12:06 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: yankeedame

Apologize after "they" thank us for freeing them.


4 posted on 01/17/2007 7:13:48 AM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: yankeedame
I apologize for my naked ancestors painting themselves blue and attacking Caesar's Roman legions on the plains of Salisbury.
5 posted on 01/17/2007 7:14:24 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: yankeedame

I want to be on record about all of this: I apologize to everyone, everywhere about everything.

Golly, I feel a lot better now.


6 posted on 01/17/2007 7:15:20 AM PST by RexBeach (In war there is no substitute for victory. - Douglas MacArthur)
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To: 2banana

bingo..they apologized, so they were guilty, now we want money..


7 posted on 01/17/2007 7:15:39 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: 2banana

This whole appology thing is incomprehensible.

How can th state appologize for something that was intruduced before the state was created? At the time the state was created slavery was an existing condition and not a product of the creation of the satate.

Just cockeyed logic.


8 posted on 01/17/2007 7:16:55 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: yankeedame

Seems the English should apologize,


9 posted on 01/17/2007 7:17:21 AM PST by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: yankeedame
No white American born after 1865, in any part of the country and especially if born elsewhere, needs to apologize for slavery,

and

No black American born after 1865, in any part of the country and especially if born elsewhere, needs to receive one.

Those who would apologize pander for the sake of their own agendas; those that demand the apology cast themselves as victims for theirs. Both classes are subject to my contempt, FWIW (Not Much).

10 posted on 01/17/2007 7:17:56 AM PST by ExGeeEye (Thanks, non-R voters, for the next two years. Hope it's only two.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Bring me a slave circa 1861 to 1865 and I will be happy to say I'm sorry.


11 posted on 01/17/2007 7:18:07 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: yankeedame

You know what I want? Instead of an apology for slavery, I want a thank you from the African American community that a) we got them out of that hellhole called African where their own countrymen are still selling Blacks into slavery; and b) a thank you that my ancestors sacrificed their lives to free the slaves.


12 posted on 01/17/2007 7:18:49 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: yankeedame

With all the problems facing States today, this is the important issue? Slavery ended 140 years ago and it's common knowledge that most every American sees it as a very dark spot on our history. Very few feel different.

Not all Blacks in the country today are descendants of slaves and some might even be descendants of Slave Owners, both Black and White. Should each have to apologize for something they did not have anything to do with over a century later?

Will African tribes that caught and sold individuals to slave traders be forced to apologize for something their ancestors did as well?

Where does it end?


13 posted on 01/17/2007 7:19:06 AM PST by DakotaRed
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To: yankeedame
But Virginia is alive and well, and Virginia was built on the backs of slaves, and Virginia’s economy boomed because of slavery

The Virginia that he mistakenly alleges was 'built on the backs of slaves' was destroyed ... and the Virginia we know and love today was built on the repudiation of slavery.

14 posted on 01/17/2007 7:19:06 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: yankeedame

I am from Virginia and am the descendent of slave owners. I know that for sure because I do genealogy for a hobby. I am very sorry that slavery was a part of American history, but I had nothing to do with it and see no reason for an apology now. I find this highly offensive and a beginning ploy for reparations.


15 posted on 01/17/2007 7:20:05 AM PST by twigs
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To: yankeedame
“I personally think that our black citizens should get over it,” Hargrove said of slavery, which existed in Virginia from 1619 until the Civil War. “By golly, we’re living in 2007.”

My sentiments exactly. Get over it!

16 posted on 01/17/2007 7:20:31 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: 2banana
Exactly. This is nothing more than a "race" hustle. This will only cause more anger and resentment and inflame racial hatreds. Reparations will force people who never owned slaves to give their money to people who never were slaves -- solely on the basis of race. How on earth is this going to improve race relations. It is not. Some people will do anything for money. This is despicable.
17 posted on 01/17/2007 7:22:28 AM PST by daviscupper
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To: 2banana
AND - the next step will then be, logically, REPARATIONS!

You're absolutely right...the apology is just the first step in the process.

18 posted on 01/17/2007 7:22:32 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: 2banana
AND - the next step will then be, logically, REPARATIONS!

And it won't stop there. With activists, they are never ever satisfied. Using the term "healing process" is the Ultimate Pandora's Box, because in order for an activist to justify their existence, they have to keep coming up with an endless list of demands to help "facilitate the healing process".

Why not just get to the punch line and demand the immediate execution of all white people?

19 posted on 01/17/2007 7:24:47 AM PST by kromike
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To: yankeedame
The only problem I have with this is the legal aspect. If such an apology implies an acceptance of responsibility for slavery on the part of Virginia, then it is merely a stepping-stone to establishing state responsibility to pay reparations.

If the state can issue a statement clarifying that 2007 Virginia regrets the support of their long deceased citizenry for the institution of slavery, an admission that it was wrong, and asks African-Americans to forgive the state in their hearts for the legacy of slavery, it could be a very healing gesture.

Note to yankeedame - See, I'm not always a smartass... ;)

20 posted on 01/17/2007 7:24:48 AM PST by Kenton (All vices in moderation. I don't want to overdo any but I don't want to skip any either.)
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