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White House: Can't rule out attack on Iran

Posted on 01/14/2007 6:00:19 PM PST by Enchante

Several senators have voiced opposition to the idea of the United States entering Iran.

Last week, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Delaware, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during a hearing on Iraq, "I believe the present authorization granted the president to use force in Iraq does not cover that, and he does need congressional authority to do that."

Rice did not rule out entering Iran or give a position on whether the Bush administration would need congressional approval.

Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Nebraska, told Rice, "No one in our government can sit here today and tell Americans that we won't engage the Iranians and the Syrians cross-border." Comparisons to Vietnam war

"When our government lied to the American people and said, 'We didn't cross the border going into Cambodia,' in fact, we did," Hagel said, referring to the Vietnam war. "So, Madam Secretary, when you set in motion the kind of policy that the president is talking about here, it's very, very dangerous."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; congress; geopolitics; iran; iraq; wot
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Weasels like Biden and Hagel are desperately trying to take the pressure OFF Iran, rather than supporing the WH in working to stop Iranian support of terrorists in Iraq and worldwide. Hagel's comparison to Vietnam and Cambodia is telling, but not for the reason he thinks: it was the puerile slavish devotion to Communist progaganda that led US politicians to equate bombing of Communist supply depots, bases, and the "Ho Chi Minh trail" to a US "invasion" of Cambodia. It was the constant violations of Cambodian neutrality by North Vietnames and Viet Cong forces that led to the need for the USA to RESPOND to North Vietnamese aggression. Yet, in the mindless rants of the political left, shamelessly parrotted by Hagel (who should know better), it is the USA that was at fault for responding to the constant inflow of arms, supplies and communist fighters from Cambodia.

Similarly, the political left, aided by saps like Hagel, will fight desperately to protect Islamo-fascists in Iran from any consequences for their constant cross-border violations of Iraq, causing many of the casualties to both the US military and Iraqi civilians.

I'm not saying we will or should attack Iran, obviously that is a huge step, but we have to at least be willing to do so and turn the screws tight if we expect to achieve anything via the sanctified "diplomacy" that liberals are always blathering on about.

1 posted on 01/14/2007 6:00:21 PM PST by Enchante
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Iran needs to be taken out.


2 posted on 01/14/2007 6:02:29 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Enchante

Nuke Iran!!!


3 posted on 01/14/2007 6:02:35 PM PST by Perdogg (Happy 2007)
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To: Enchante

We should have attacked Iran long ago with overwhelming force.


4 posted on 01/14/2007 6:02:53 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Enchante

MESSAGE TO SENATOR BIDEN: We should not sit and wait to be nuked by some religious fanatic nut in Iran....Please prvide a better idea, if you have one.


5 posted on 01/14/2007 6:03:33 PM PST by Rapscallion (Victory in war means winning, unless you are a democ-rat.)
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The two messed-up thing here is that there's Americans out there that will support congress in trying to usurp the Prasident as commander-in-chief, completely ignorant of what the Constitution says in the matter.


6 posted on 01/14/2007 6:04:03 PM PST by Lusis
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The second massed-up thing is that there are Americans who still thing you win wars by being the gentleman instead of the warrior.


7 posted on 01/14/2007 6:05:53 PM PST by Lusis
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To: Rapscallion; yldstrk; Man50D; Lusis

I would certainly support the idea of obliterating Iran's nuke, military, and "Revolutionary Guards" capabilities to the greatest extent possible, so long as we go about it the right way and accomplish what needs to be done. The only thing that makes me hesitate is that the combination of weak-kneed RINOs like Hagel plus all the charlatan Demagogues like Biden makes it nearly impossible that we will do it right. We should have the will to simply crush Iranian forces from the air in a massive assault, but I suspect anything we do will be half-assed and not get the job done right. That is the only reason I hesitate, not because it should not really be done, and done soon.


8 posted on 01/14/2007 6:08:49 PM PST by Enchante (Chamberlain Democrats embraced by terrorists and America-haters worldwide!!)
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To: yldstrk

Taking out IRAN would not be any more difficult than taking on Iraq...we did not use all the resourses we could have then and we will not need NUKES Now...our conventional capability now is even more awsome now...

God bless our Troops...rain Hell on our enemies!


9 posted on 01/14/2007 6:10:07 PM PST by Turborules
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Iran needs to be dealt with once and for all. It's way overdue.


10 posted on 01/14/2007 6:11:14 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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The European's unwillingness to deal with Hitler will pale in comparison to what is unleashed on the world because of our three decade long unwillingness to deal with Iran.


11 posted on 01/14/2007 6:13:05 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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Listen to the weasels squirm. Yellow turkeys.


12 posted on 01/14/2007 6:16:50 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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It's not about security...long term or short...It's all about BUSH...Case Closed.


13 posted on 01/14/2007 6:19:36 PM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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We can take Iran and Syria at the same time. These paper tigers cannot stop the USA forces if we decide to kick their asses !!!


14 posted on 01/14/2007 6:26:39 PM PST by Obie Wan
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White House: Can't rule out attack on Iran

Well why not? Everything I've heard from Iran since 911 is: "Iran: Can't rule out attack on U.S. and Israel."

15 posted on 01/14/2007 6:32:23 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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I like the way you think.

Rain Hell on our enemies. That had to be like an Ike comment or something. None the less....Your right.

We have enough smart weapons, cruise missles and the like to wreak havoc on Iran. This nation building stuff is just hog-warsh.


16 posted on 01/14/2007 6:34:43 PM PST by servantboy777
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might be thinking of harry t."if they do not now accept our terms they can expect a rain of ruin from the air the likes never seen on this earth" part of trumans speech following the dropping of the first nukie. guess the japs didn't believe him as it took another one to make 'em say uncle.


17 posted on 01/14/2007 6:45:37 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Enchante

Hagel is not a "Republican" or a patriot.

I have something for Hagel, but I like it here, so, I'll just say huck fagel.


18 posted on 01/14/2007 6:52:22 PM PST by Hilltop
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To: Turborules

Sorry to dampen your analysis, but it would be:

1. We already effectively controlled the one part of Iraq with difficult terrain--Iraqi Kurdistan--at the onset of Op. Iraqi Freedom, thanks to the
pro-US Kurdish autonomous region under the protection of the no-fly zone.

By contrast much more of Iran is mountainous, and we have no significant organized allies in-country.

2. Iran has a much larger population.

Invasion of Iran is a non-starter. The plan has to be to cut off their proxies in Iraq, foment unrest in Iran, and, if needed, hit them with an air campaign directed at their nuclear installations, Revolutionary Guard facilities, and regime leadership.


19 posted on 01/14/2007 6:57:08 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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You said it well. It is incomprehensible to me, that while our forces were being attacked in S. Vietnam, OUR Congress forbid the assault on NVA supply lines in Cambodia and Laos. Where are THEIR apologies? Do they admit their mistakes? Why don't we ever call them on this?


20 posted on 01/14/2007 6:59:38 PM PST by Mr. Peabody
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