[libertarianPA]

countries that do have universal health care, and there are a whole lot of different plans out there, spend less as a percentage of GDP on health care than we do and have longer life expectancies.

Were you not listening to the German guy? He said that Germany spends 13% of its GDP on health care as opposed to America that spends 3%.

And if your goal is to live a few years longer in a country that has no choice in health services, that's fine. I'd rather die a few years earlier and have my choice as to where to whom I go for medical care.

[lucysmom]

If you really believe that the US only spends 3% of GDP on health care, you're in for a rude awakening. In 2003, the US spent 15.2% of GDP for health care and the second highest spender, Switzerland, spent 11.5%. Germany spent 10.8%, France spent 10.4(France has more doctors per capita than the US), and Sweden spent 9.3%. Source: Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development