[lucysmom]

If you think health care is expensive now, just wait until it's 'free'- PJ O'Rourke

In the first place, I don't think anyone believes that any system that provides access to health care universally is free.

In the second place, countries that do have universal health care, and there are a whole lot of different plans out there, spend less as a percentage of GDP on health care than we do and have longer life expectancies.

Third, just because we don't have universal health care doesn't make us more free or mean that we don't support a massive bureaucracy. Insurance companies are massive bureaucracies. They collect monthly premiums, employ people to deny service, and dictate what doctors we may see.

[hosepipe]

[ In the second place, countries that do have universal health care, and there are a whole lot of different plans out there, spend less as a percentage of GDP on health care than we do and have longer life expectancies. ]

Socialism is Slavery by Givernment.. exactly, specifically, always..
Even now (SSA) Social; Security is PURE socialism.. PURE...

Are YOU a socialist?.. Do you even know what socialism means?..

[libertarianPA]

countries that do have universal health care, and there are a whole lot of different plans out there, spend less as a percentage of GDP on health care than we do and have longer life expectancies.

Were you not listening to the German guy? He said that Germany spends 13% of its GDP on health care as opposed to America that spends 3%.

And if your goal is to live a few years longer in a country that has no choice in health services, that's fine. I'd rather die a few years earlier and have my choice as to where to whom I go for medical care.