rudy is eventually going to have to address the "contentious" positions he has. he should start with abortion - his position should be that he supports constitutionalist judges, and if Roe is eventually deemed unconstitutional - then so be it, abortion will not be made illegal, but will return to the States. and that's OK.
After four years of a Repulican President thumbing his nose at fiscal conservatives, I can't see nominating a man who thumbs his nose at social conservatives.
Here's hoping we can find a Republican that can beat both of them.
Rudolph Giuliani is Mario Cuomo's protege. I think he would be an excellent nominee in 2008 -- for the Democratic Party.
Wrong characterization. What McCain has been willing to buck is the President, and the Constitution.
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Just what we need, two more moderates.
Here they come!!!
Rudy isn't that stupid. Neither is mclame.
Michael Barrone and now Frank Luntz....
A couple of the sharpest Repub number crunchers now thinking Rudy will win.
I desire a conservative, but something I will say in Giuliani's favor, he has the stuff, of all the front runners of both parties at present, only Giulianni seems to actually belong there.
The only other man that seems to be natural presidential material, is a man I support, but that couldn't win, Newt Gingrich.
From the NEW YORK Daily News.
Much as I hate McCain, if I had to choose between JulieAnnie and McCain, it would be McCain.
JulieAnnie:
1) Supported an obnoxious Democrat - Mario Cuomo - for Governor of New York while sitting in the Mayor's Office as a Republican - thanks to Republican help.
2) Supported an obnoxious Democrat - Jim Florio - for Governor of New Jersey while sitting in the Mayor's Office in New York - thanks to Republican help.
3) Continued the policy of his Democrat redecessor Dinkins - as Mayor of New York in directing the New York P.D. NOT to cooperate with INS in turning over illegal invaders.
4) Was intensely disliked by many of his constituents for his arrogance until 9-11 saved him.
5) Is an outspoken supporter of illegal invaders
6) Dressed in drag for a public event
7) Supports abortion
8) Opposes the Second Amendment
9) Campaigned with Bill Clinton cross country to support his bogus Crime Control Bill
10) Supports homosexual "rights".
11) Was married THREE times.
If you think this man represents the principles of the Republican Party, will carry the Red States and Middle America, or deserves to run for President, you are dilusional.
I hope a conservative steps up that can beat them both.
Newt
The Real Rudy Giuliani:
From Human Events:
Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance
As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:
"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.
I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...
Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.
Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."
Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:
"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999
It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?
Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.
An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate
In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.
Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.
Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?
Soft on Gay Marriage
Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.
Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:
His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."
Here's more from the New York Daily News:
"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.
The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.
"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."
Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.
Pro-Illegal Immigration
As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:
"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."
That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:
"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."
If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.
READ MORE OF GIULIANI'S LEFT-WING POSITIONS HERE
It's not going to happen. If Rudy win the nomination, he'll pick a conservative Southern senator or ex-Governor.
And this would change the fact they are both RINO's extrordinaire how?