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How Lieutenant Ford Saved His Ship
NY Times ^
| December 28, 2006
| ROBERT DRURY and TOM CLAVIN
Posted on 12/28/2006 9:33:44 AM PST by neverdem
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posted on
12/28/2006 9:33:46 AM PST
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
FOR Americans under a certain age, Gerald Ford is best remembered for his contribution to Bartletts Our long national nightmare is over Sounds suspiciously like "Mission accomplished" to me.
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posted on
12/28/2006 9:39:47 AM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Great story and from the infamous nytimes. I can not help but wonder if all this great news coming out after Fords death from the leftist is not in hopes that the right will do the same for comrade james earl carter when he too faces his Maker.
To: neverdem
and no ball bearings in sight!
He was part of the "Greatest Generation" which included the likes of Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, Capatin Kangaroo, and Scotty from Star Trek!
One of the local talk show pundits who fashions himself a conservative says that the Ford defining handle is "Mediocre".
Doofus!
To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
"Like his fellow World War II veterans, Mr. Ford returned home and resumed his life, rarely speaking publicly of his heroism."
John Forbes Kerry, take note of this
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posted on
12/28/2006 9:49:16 AM PST
by
seamusnh
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Now Mr. Ford is a hero? These stories seem suspicious in lieu
of the press coverage given Ford.
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posted on
12/28/2006 9:50:59 AM PST
by
ChiMark
To: ChiMark
Quite right. The NYT hated Mr. Ford's guts. So did most of the press. Period.
But, as someone said earlier today, "Mr. Ford finally did something that the liberals liked. He died."
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posted on
12/28/2006 9:52:50 AM PST
by
RexBeach
(In war there is no substitute for victory. - Douglas MacArthur)
To: neverdem
To: neverdem
... tore out the hull of the nearby Australian cruiser Canberra ...
Boy, Aussie cruisers named Canberra are unlucky - wasn't an HMAS Canberra sunk at Savo?
To: neverdem
Three destroyers were eventually capsized by Typhoon Cobra, a dozen more ships were seriously damaged, more than 150 planes were destroyed, and 793 men lost their lives. It was the Navys worst defeat of World War II. Aside from Gerald Ford, that's an interesting sentence. The author calls this the Navy's "worst 'defeat'"? Uh, what about Pearl Harbor (over 2000 sailors and soldiers killed) or even the Battle of Savo Island in '42 (over 1000 allied sailors lost). This guy needs to do a little research before saying something like that.
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posted on
12/28/2006 10:11:41 AM PST
by
Gator101
To: neverdem
My father was on a destroyer that survived that typhoon and many years later he still shuddered when he told about the experience. It was one of his most fearsome experiences, and he had several others to choose from - and he wasn't fighting a fire, either.
Frankly, abandoning ship didn't seem like too good an option for the crew of the Monterey.
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posted on
12/28/2006 10:12:32 AM PST
by
Gritty
(Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. They despise cowards.-General Patton)
To: Gritty
Here is the view from a similar ship to USS Monteray (USS Independance) during the same storm:
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posted on
12/28/2006 10:31:55 AM PST
by
Gator101
To: Gator101
Oops.
USS Monteray (USS Independance) should be: USS Monterey (USS Independence).
I have a bad habit of putting a's where "e's should be.
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posted on
12/28/2006 10:35:45 AM PST
by
Gator101
To: Gritty
Agreed. Three destroyers ran out of fuel in that typhoon and sank with heavy loss of life, something like 360 of 450 men involved.
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posted on
12/28/2006 10:56:57 AM PST
by
hc87
To: Gritty
I agree. Abandoning ship in a storm would NOT be something that I would want to do. DC training is never a waste of time.
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posted on
12/28/2006 10:57:21 AM PST
by
quikdrw
(Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
To: Little Ray
Boy, Aussie cruisers named Canberra are unlucky - wasn't an HMAS Canberra sunk at Savo? Yes, the Australians, like us, adopted the practice of naming the new ships after ones lost earlier in the war.
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posted on
12/28/2006 10:58:49 AM PST
by
hc87
To: Gator101
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posted on
12/28/2006 11:04:05 AM PST
by
Gritty
(If we wish to learn what was going on in Europe in 1938, just look around - VD Hanson)
To: hc87
My mistake. The ship referred to in the article was USS Canberra (CA-70), not HMAS Canberra. USS Canberra was named for the Australian cruiser which went down at Savo Island.
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posted on
12/28/2006 11:06:46 AM PST
by
hc87
To: Gator101
Don't think that was the same storm as, to the best of my knowledge, no WWII flattop had catapults.
To: Gator101
I feel seasick just looking at that ship being battered during the storm.
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posted on
12/28/2006 11:29:22 AM PST
by
Ciexyz
(Remembering President Gerald Ford with respect.)
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