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1 posted on 12/23/2006 1:58:33 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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David Irving should ask his parents if he was repeatedly dropped on his head as a child.


2 posted on 12/23/2006 2:04:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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The Jews are so hated, they even hate themselves. I suppose Josephs brothers really liked him when they threw him in a pit and sold him into slavery though. /sarcasm

Why indeed?

3 posted on 12/23/2006 2:05:05 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (When true genius appears, know him by this sign: all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.)
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Perhaps the Jews should consider the motto "Oderint, dum metuant."


4 posted on 12/23/2006 2:08:24 PM PST by magslinger (An open mind is like an outhouse. Sooner or later someone is going to fill it.)
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It's completely stupid that this guy should have been imprisoned for three years for freedom of speech:

If instead he'd been allowed to wonder around expressing his views, someone may have shot him in the head by now, putting him out of his deranged misery and doing society a huge favor.


5 posted on 12/23/2006 2:09:37 PM PST by baa39 (Merry Christmas!)
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Jimmy Carter is a bigger anti-semite than Michael Irving.


6 posted on 12/23/2006 2:10:16 PM PST by LdSentinal
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The Jews are hated because many of them are generally better than alot of other people. They have comprised most of the greatest beings in the history of the world. Therefore, people are very jealous of them and want to get rid of them.

Mr. Irving must be very jealous because he knows that he is a hopeless retard. Why must God keep letting these types of people exist? sigh


8 posted on 12/23/2006 2:18:38 PM PST by Soothesayer (Birth is murder!)
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I always thought its because some people dont like bagels


9 posted on 12/23/2006 2:20:44 PM PST by woofie (For some people self hatred may be justified)
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Ignoring this fellow's obvious issues of bias and anger, what is the answer to that question? Certainly, Jews, more than any other group, have been the target of prejudice and hatred. Why is that? Why should this one group be the subject of so much hostility?


10 posted on 12/23/2006 2:24:04 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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They [Jews] should ask themselves the question, 'Why have they been so hated for 3000 years that there has been pogrom after pogrom in country after country? The answer to that one is easy for anyone who has read the Bible passage where Moses is shown the Burning Bush. That has turned out to be, perhaps, the most prophetic passage of the Bible. The Jews exist to serve G-d and keep his word. The price of that is that they will constantly be tested in a variety of ways--ranging from obstracism to genocide. Even the "Golden Ages" that Jews enjoy from time to time (like the one they have experienced in America) are a test of sorts. It becomes oh-so-easy to blend in, become secular, and forget your faith. This is why there are so few Jews, even though they have been around so long. Like the Marines, the Jews will always be the few and the proud. Unlike them, they will enjoy little glory--on Earth at least.
11 posted on 12/23/2006 2:26:08 PM PST by rbg81 (1)
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I won't deny the holocaust but his question: why have the Jews been hated for 3000 years is a fair one.
They have had a rather dificult time of it during that 3000 years.
And it hasn't all been mooselimbs.
Incidently I do support Israel, I just don't understand why Olmert is such a patsy girlie man, cept to say he is a lawyer. Israle better take out Irans nuke program or it will perish.


12 posted on 12/23/2006 2:26:50 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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This Irving guy is deliberately provocative, and (so far as I understand) he has been shown to sometimes get his facts wrong, but I fail to see why he was in jail to begin with. Also I think the suggestions here and elsewhere that he deserves violence for being a lying jerk are way, way off the mark. Treating his personality and veracity issues as though they are of a different and more critical type than say those of Michael Moore or of any number of Muslim firebrands is not good for our society and is, I believe, particularly harmful to Jews in the end. That David Irving gets thrown in jail for expressing opinions while Michael Moore and Mullah Whoever do not kinda supports at least part of his case.


14 posted on 12/23/2006 2:28:36 PM PST by rogue yam
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From another article linked in this one:

"Irving has contended that most of those who died at concentration camps like Auschwitz succumbed to diseases such as typhus rather than execution."


As if that would have made the Nazis blameless. The world would be so much better without garbage like this guy.


16 posted on 12/23/2006 2:30:29 PM PST by kenth (I wish compassionate conservatives were more compassionate to conservatism.)
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As God and Jesus is hated by much of the world what is so unusual that Jews be treated the same way. They are His people so what is the problem? In a not so visible state, Christians are now hated and I am sure it is not going to get any easier.


17 posted on 12/23/2006 2:33:08 PM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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Yes...it's the ALL the fault of the Jooooos. If only they would disappear....... /s
24 posted on 12/23/2006 2:37:36 PM PST by Dallas59 (Islam Should Not Be Allowed In Western Countries)
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They have been a blessing to every nation that has ever harbored them.

Can't say the same about the haters. Most of their countries are horror-shows.


26 posted on 12/23/2006 2:37:54 PM PST by marron
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This guy is making Jimmy Carter's argument in a way even Liberals can see through. Irving, like Carter, believes the victims are to blame and that those victims have no right to self-defense. As their logic goes, Israel is wrong because it won't allow its enemies to destroy it. In essence, Carter and Irving and Gibson are public relations enablers for those who actually carry out the slaughter; they provide the sophistries and muddle-minded logic that sways other weak-minded morally bankrupt worms. The MSM and DNC do much the same thing for the so-called Iraqi "insurgents" as well.


28 posted on 12/23/2006 2:38:22 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Syria and Iraq, Lebanon, and Israel will all be secure.)
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Everyone is jealous and envious of the enormous contributions of all the Jews to science, medicine, business, finance, the arts, etc.

They're also jealous of matzoh ball soup, bagels, bialys and noodle kugel. Don't even get me started about gefilte fish and kreplach. Oi vey. Not to mention Henny Youngman.
34 posted on 12/23/2006 2:44:38 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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Jews should ask themselves why they are hated

Well, some of them can be pretty obnoxious but I have always attributed that to the fact that they were from New York City. :-)

40 posted on 12/23/2006 2:50:06 PM PST by Polybius
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People like David Irving are dangerous. We had the same fake scholarship in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and it led to the concentration camps. These people should not be taken likely. They're dangerous to Israel and the U.S.


42 posted on 12/23/2006 2:52:12 PM PST by popdonnelly
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Irving is not trustworthy on any point of history. He is simply so dishonest that he is useless as a historian and it is not only about the holocaust.

Lying About Hitler: History, Holocaust, and the David Irving Trial

"..While many people agree that Irving may have a bee in his bonnet about the Holocaust, they say his other work is valuable. Evans helpfully deflates that view with a chapter on Irving's book on the Destruction of Dresden. Whereas most scholars suggest that at most 40-50,000 people died in the firebombing of the city, Irving has suggested that up to a quarter of a million may have died. How did he do this? Well, without any real evidence he took one estimate of 40,000 and argued that the assessor had just dropped a "1" at the beginning in response to Soviet pressure. His source for a total of 200-250,000 amount to little more than fifth-hand hearsay of a document that had been excerpted, transcribed, transcribed again and copied, and which was a fraud in the first place. Evans points out that Irving tried to exaggerate the number of people in Dresden by cited 1.25 million ration cards, except that the British had previously dropped thousands of ration cards in order to muck up the Nazi bureaucracy. And, oh yes, Evans points out that Irving ignores or minimizes contemporary German documents that show that the death total was about the tenth of his estimate. All in all, this is a very useful book, one that should help demolish the reputation of a most overrated and sinister figure. .."

50 posted on 12/23/2006 3:17:05 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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