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Researchers find stem-cell therapy effective in targeting metastatic cancer
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| 12.20.06
| Kathleen O’Neil
Posted on 12/22/2006 4:53:04 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus
>> I think you are confused as to what the difference between "fetal" and "embryonic" cells are. As a matter of fact, I know you are confused.
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Hmmm. Here is your post replying to my statement that they were not embryonic stem cells. Clearly shows that I was not confused.
ME: These were not embryonic stem cells. >>>
You: right, they are fetal cells from a 15-week-old aborted baby.
To: UpAllNight
you should be able to source the info. >>>
the do-nothing freeper at it again. Do your own research.
We care for the truth. >>>
WE? ha, who exactly are "we"? the freeper trolls with no life? only trolls with no life who have nothing to offer care for such insignificant information as you do. Go back to bed. As I stated, you have nothing to offer here at the FR, only nonsense and gibberish. Why don't you post your own threads and post links when you reply to FReepers. So far, your posts on the FR are very insignificant and worthless. I see nothing what a person could learn from your posts and I have yet to see you post any threads of value..
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posted on
12/23/2006 10:09:19 AM PST
by
Coleus
(Christmas is part of our Western Civilization and is an U.S. Holiday for all Americans)
To: UpAllNight
Once agian you are showing how confused you are. First the article did not mention embryonic stem cells and when you replied to right wingin it not to coleus, I posted to you that yes, the cells are not embryonic, they are fetal cells. Up all night you need to get some rest and stop making a fool of yourself.
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posted on
12/23/2006 10:14:01 AM PST
by
Coleus
(Christmas is part of our Western Civilization and is an U.S. Holiday for all Americans)
To: Coleus
>>First the article did not mention embryonic stem cells and when you replied to right wingin it not to coleus, I posted to you that yes, the cells are not embryonic, they are fetal cells. Up all night you need to get some rest and stop making a fool of yourself.
Correct. RW implied that they were embryonic, I replied to him that they were not and you agreed with me. If I am the fool, what does that make you for agreeing with me?
To: UpAllNight
If I am the fool, what does that make you for agreeing with me? >>
you are an insignificant troll with nothing to add to the FR except for your annoying one-liners getting under people's skin. Go away. You are a fool because you don't know what you are saying and posting to the wrong people. I have a feeling you are a banned freeper and are using another screen name. Go to the clown website, that's where you belong.
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posted on
12/23/2006 10:22:54 AM PST
by
Coleus
(Christmas is part of our Western Civilization and is an U.S. Holiday for all Americans)
To: Coleus
>>you are an insignificant troll with nothing to add to the FR except for your annoying one-liners getting under people's skin. Go away. You are a fool because you don't know what you are saying and posting to the wrong people. I have a feeling you are a banned freeper and are using another screen name. Go to the clown website, that's where you belong.
I see you have the Christmas spirit. I never made a personal attack on you but Merry Christmas anyway.
To: Trust but Verify
Pardon my assertion ... now that I read your perspective I find we agree, probably completely.
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posted on
12/23/2006 11:57:22 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: UpAllNight; Coleus
Odds are the cell line was developed from the vast number of forgotten "surplus embryos," residing at all the private fertility clinics out there.
Personally, I consider those aborted, perhaps not "a la Planned Parenthood," but they are still "aborted".
To: UpAllNight; Coleus
Actually,...15 weeks gestation is a bit long!...Forget that hypothesis. Well, we could sit here and argue it was from Planned Parenthood, or from a miscarriage. A miscarriage, seem unlikely to me...even just on statistics
Unfortunately, there is a huge market for fetal tissue out there and the abortion clinics have found a loophole around the law.
To: Trust but Verify; Coleus; UpAllNight
Does any of the information you have indicate how these cells were obtained? Specifically, do you know if the fetal tissue was available to researchers as the result of being intentionally aborted?This is not my field of expertise, but I do know there are "standard" fetal cell lines out from aborted fetuses.
Additionally, the word "embryo" in the broadest scientific definition can refer to it up until birth. However, begining at the 7-week mark or so, the embryo is typically refered to as a fetus. (So in other words after 7 weeks, it can still be considered an embryo or a fetus).
I'm not aware of any limitation on the length of gestation for embryos in the field "Embryonic stem cell research." Certainly, we hear often the term "embryonic stem research". I don't ever recall hearing of the term "fetal stem cell research", or a "fetal stem cell researcher". But the researchers do refere to the stem cell lines as being of "fetal" origin.
To: right-wingin_It
I used to think awhile back that St. Jude's was a Catholic hospital..I thought so, too.
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posted on
12/23/2006 2:05:01 PM PST
by
syriacus
(30,000 US deaths in Korea in 2 1/2 years under Truman (Jul, 1950 - Dec, 1952))
To: Coleus
The "discussion" on this thread raises a question, again, that keeps nagging at me.
Is there a protocol to "save" cells from a miscarried fetus or embryo?
Or do the cells of a miscarried embryo/fetus always decay too quickly?
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posted on
12/23/2006 2:23:41 PM PST
by
syriacus
(30,000 US deaths in Korea in 2 1/2 years under Truman (Jul, 1950 - Dec, 1952))
To: syriacus
Forgive the dlay ... I will answer your question following Christmas travels. Short answer is, the researchers seek pristine cell and tissue cultures and miscarried children are not considered pristine, for a variety of reasons.
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posted on
12/25/2006 9:30:55 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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