Posted on 12/14/2006 6:00:49 PM PST by aculeus
The hubbub raised over six Islamic imams being removed from a US Airways flight in Minneapolis for suspicious behavior is the latest in a string of incidents underlining one consistent thread in the war on terror: Muslim terrorists have never given up on the tried and true idea of hijacking airplanes and blowing them up to kill and demoralize the infidels.
Police and witness reports suggest a list of suspicious activities and remarks. Some of the imams were discussing in Arabic about “bin Laden” and condemning America for “killing Saddam.” Imams asked for seat belt extenders for the extremely obese, for no apparent reason. (Did you know such extenders even existed?) The imams spread out at all exits of the plane, two in front, two in the middle, two in the rear. Between the six imams, they had one piece of checked luggage.
There have been some seriously frightening moments since 9/11. Just a few months later, foiled “shoe bomber” Richard Reid was arrested on board American Airlines Flight 63 from Paris to Miami for attempting to light explosives hidden in his shoes. In court, he declared his allegiance to Osama bin Laden and was convicted in 2003 and sentenced to life in prison.
On March 5, 2003, Fazal Karim, an illegal immigrant from Pakistan, attempted to board an American Airlines flight from Dallas to Houston when screeners found in his luggage 32 razor blades concealed within a box containing a coiled belt. He was convicted of attempting to conceal weapons and making false statements about his immigration status and sentenced to five years in prison.
On June 29, 2004, journalist Annie Jacobsen complained about the very suspicious behavior of a group of Middle Easterners during a flight from Detroit to Los Angeles. When the plane landed, they were detained, and though the Department of Homeland Security would later report that they were a band of Syrian musicians en route to a gig in Las Vegas, Jacobsen learned that DHS also decided to classify the entire report. Why classify it if nothing was amiss?
On August 10, British authorities thwarted a plot to simultaneously blow up 10 aircraft heading to the U.S. using explosives smuggled in luggage, averting what police described as “mass murder on an unimaginable scale.” Some plotters had already purchased tickets on a flight to stage a test run, with an actual attack planned for days later.
The national media have certainly paid attention to airline security issues since 9/11. But they can’t be expected to learn about and report every airline disruption, especially if no real act of terror occurs. Thus it begs the question: How many times, at how many airports, have there been these kinds of incidents that have not made it to the news desks? I ask because I’ve been a witness to one such incident, from a distance of perhaps three feet, which never made it on the news.
On October 14, I was in Grand Rapids, having boarded United 5832 to Chicago. It was one of those smaller commuter jets with two seats on either side of the aisle. The flight was perhaps one third full, giving sardined passengers the opportunity to move to the multiple open rows after the boarding process was complete. That’s when I noticed the two men, one a younger Muslim, the second an older black man, make their way from the back to the two seats behind the bulkhead on the right side of the plane, one row in front and across from me. Odd. If they wanted more breathing room, why were they choosing to sit together again in crammed quarters, given all the open rows? Why did they move at all? And if they remained together because they needed to visit, why didn’t they exchange a single word? I watched them as they just sat, staring straight ahead. And the plane also just sat by the gate, for a good fifteen minutes.
And then the hatch flew open and a half-dozen DHS/FBI agents rushed in, surrounded these two men, and flashing badges, ordered them off the plane.
Now stop for a minute. Imagine you were one of these two, and you were innocent. What would be your reaction if suddenly confronted by a small army of heat-packing federal agents demanding your removal? You might literally jump out of your seat belt in surprise. What? Me? Huh?! Why? What’s going on?! What’d I do? What’s the meaning of this? And the like. And that’s when it really got creepy. I watched as the two men stood up, and without a word, without a shred of emotion on their faces, calmly accompanied the agents off the plane. How else to explain this? They were expecting their detention.
The pilot would take to the intercom a few minutes later to explain what he could. Homeland Security had been running background checks on these two, and while nothing had registered on the computers, the flight crew was “just uncomfortable” -- as they had every reason to be.
Something is happening out there. And it’s not good.
And then the hatch flew open and a half-dozen DHS/FBI agents rushed in, surrounded these two men, and flashing badges, ordered them off the plane.
Now stop for a minute. Imagine you were one of these two, and you were innocent. What would be your reaction if suddenly confronted by a small army of heat-packing federal agents demanding your removal? You might literally jump out of your seat belt in surprise. What? Me? Huh?! Why? What’s going on?! What’d I do? What’s the meaning of this? And the like. And that’s when it really got creepy. I watched as the two men stood up, and without a word, without a shred of emotion on their faces, calmly accompanied the agents off the plane. How else to explain this? They were expecting their detention.
The pilot would take to the intercom a few minutes later to explain what he could. Homeland Security had been running background checks on these two, and while nothing had registered on the computers, the flight crew was “just uncomfortable” -- as they had every reason to be.
nice to meet you brent.
Har har.
I wasn't aware of this.
The only reason I can think of that these stories are not made public is that it might reveal some counter-terrorist methodology.
Its absolutely gotta be killing the Bush administration to remain quiet. There is a lot of fine work being performed by DHS.
And, I'll bet that democrat leaders are aware of DHS accomplishments as well, but they state otherwise just to regain power.
Dh is a commercial airline pilot as are many, many of our friends from dh's active duty military days in aviation. And these friends are everywhere; United, Delta, USAir, American, Continental, Alaska, Northwest, Southwest, JetBlue and more. Dh is also an activated reservist.
That said, I'm only casually privy to information shared between these friends and their wives, and your hunch is correct. There is a lot happening out there that the general public (usually) doesn't see.
bump for publicity
Why would an adult, with no children, be carrying that stuff, unless:
Those Imams should have been dealt with according to the same protocol as a nimrod who jokes about a gun or a bomb, then multiply the penalty by six. Everything I read or heard about the incident indicates they were deliberately provocative. No, I don't know whether they were probing security or just fishing for an ACLU sponsored lawsuit, but their behavior was far more serious than the bomb or gun jokster who certainly would not be walking away after a few questions, getting an alternate flight and then getting to whine about discrimination to a pliant media.
When you meet your old friend Jack on an airplane, say hello, not Hi...........
"On October 14, I was in Grand Rapids, having boarded United 5832 to Chicago. It was one of those smaller commuter jets with two seats on either side of the aisle. The flight was perhaps one third full, giving sardined passengers the opportunity to move to the multiple open rows after the boarding process was complete."
I was on a simlar flight earlier this year, and as i was exhausted I planned to nap on the flight - given that I occasionally snore, I headed for the back of the plane to stretch out. The steward calmly but VERY firmly offered me a seat up near the rest of the other passengers, and I laughed and complied, and I just warned him about the snoring.
Thinking back, after reading this...I probably caused them some concern! I've run into many stewards and stewardesses with attitudes, but I have nothing but sympathy for them now, every flight is a chance to run into this kind of thing!
tomorrow Cavuto is going to have a lawyer on, who plans on suing the 6 imams...........awesome!!!!
The islamofacists know that aircraft are still the best way to kill a lot 0f people quickly and disrupt millions more.
They are plotting.
They are testing the security screening.
They know just their presence combined with a little strange behavior is enough to create anxiety and fear in otherwise normal people.
Perhaps the seat belt extenders could be used across an aisle to block folks from getting to an exit.
Tell, me about it, I work in a dispatch office for a commuter airline. Last month we got a call from the air that a passenger had pulled down the wall seperating the lav from the aft cargo bin. There are two walls, so he would not have been able to get into the pit, but it was freaky. The FBI and airport police were waiting for him in Knoxville when they arrived. I went through the notifications, filled out my report, notified the FAA and went home. The next day I asked the Chief Pilot about it and he said DHS had taken over and it was out of our hands..
>Why would an adult, with no children, be carrying that stuff, unless:<
Because you can take C-6, color it and it will look exactly like Playdough. Then put a blasting cap detonator in it, form a shape charge and you will have blown a hole in the side of the aircraft.
If you want to know how to get the blasting cap on board, past security, ask any teenager and they should be able to figure it out.
If there was no curiosity over the playdough, then the imams mission is accomplished.
They would make a better weapon. Swinging the buckle .....
A special thanks for posting this. At this very moment, I am trying to explain this to a poster IN Grand Rapids on a Grand Rapids forum. He just doesn't get it. He also agrees that the Rapids bus company was right in changing their policy to allow veiled Muslims on the bus.
Seems to me that would have taken some special knowledge of the part of the perp. I've never given any thought at all to what might be on the other side of the wall.
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