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Can Homosexuality Be Treated and Prevented? (James Dobson, Ph.D. Child Development)
Focus on the Family ^ | June, 2005? | James Dobson

Posted on 12/10/2006 10:48:22 PM PST by unspun

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To: Zeroisanumber
I don't think that Dr. Dobson ever implied that being a nerd was doomed to a sexual perverts life.

Our son was and is an avid reader and walking dictionary, he five children, and is probably one of the most hetroxsexual adult man that you could find.
21 posted on 12/11/2006 4:22:43 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: mariabush

Thanks for distilling it into such a succinct statement.


22 posted on 12/11/2006 4:34:51 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: KJC1

Are you gay?


23 posted on 12/11/2006 4:37:25 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: unspun

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24 posted on 12/11/2006 4:37:36 AM PST by MoralSense
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To: tkathy
I have known a number of homosexuals, and many of them were born that way.

Birth defect, mental illness, or a choice... pick one...

25 posted on 12/11/2006 4:40:54 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: KJC1
...but gays don't decide to be gay.

For that matter, what if they do? Don't we need to show some harm before condemning behavior? STDs, yes, but that's promiscuity, not homosexuality.

The old accusation "those who condemn gays are hiding their own gayness" is rubbish but people who obsess about other peoples' sex lives definitely need another hobby.

26 posted on 12/11/2006 4:52:12 AM PST by Grut
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To: Candor7
The culture of fathers and men we used to have and its relegation to secondary importance is one reason homosexuals can be created out of prepubescent boys.

Yes, it is the feminization of men. "It is our wits that make us men" (Malcolm Wallace in Braveheart), not what we do with the appendage at the lower end of the spinal column.

Marijuana is the perfect chemical warfare agent for the feminization of men.

Recreational drug use has been chemical warfare waged against the young people of this country since the 1960s. The sex perverts, like the druggies, can only perpetuate an ever increasing market for their filth by molesting the minds and bodies of the young ones.

27 posted on 12/11/2006 4:52:17 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Bushwacker777

I had observed that many lesbians I knew were physically somewhat masculine - thick waisted, strong featured. These can be symptoms of Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, and there have been studies that lesbians do have a higher prevalance of this disorder, which causes insulin resistance and increased production of androgens.

Whether the androgens cause lesbian feelings, or whether the often cruel rejection by men of this body type causes a retreat to lesbianism, I don't know.

Mrs VS


28 posted on 12/11/2006 5:59:12 AM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: unspun
let's think about this with a depth beyond Oprah and BaBa

If all red headed men could not reproduce (as same sex sex does not produce offspring) how many generations would have to pass before there were no red headed men

it's not brain surgery

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29 posted on 12/11/2006 6:08:26 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: tkathy

The behavior IS a choice, not the attraction to the same sex. It's an abnormal attraction NOT to be succumbed to but overcome just like any other abnormal attraction.


30 posted on 12/11/2006 6:09:39 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
But I believe his statements about heredity are in error. I will, of course, bow to someone who has more knowledge in this than I do.

I don't want to claim to have more knowledge than you do. But to the extent that Dr. Dobson is trying to suggest that there is no possibility of genetic influence, I think that is mistaken. He is assuming that gays do not reproduce at all. But gay men do father children; the figure I have seen is that they have 20% as many children as heterosexuals. That's a lot fewer but far from zero.

That said, I think there is too much focus on genes rather than other biological factors. If this were my field of research I would looking at whether something that the fetus is exposed to in the womb might be influencing the developing brain in a way that influences masculinity/femininity and ultimately sexual preference.

31 posted on 12/11/2006 7:01:27 AM PST by freespirited (John McCain: In your heart, you know he's wrong.)
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To: expatguy

LOL, and no.


32 posted on 12/11/2006 7:20:31 AM PST by KJC1 (Right when you think you're really good is when you need to pay the most attention)
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To: KJC1

And gays like to be called fag.


33 posted on 12/11/2006 7:36:48 AM PST by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

BUMP!


34 posted on 12/11/2006 6:17:43 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: freespirited
But gay men do father children;...

They would have to be heterosexual to do that...

That is a biologically driven heterosexual desire.

35 posted on 12/11/2006 6:30:03 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: gleeaikin; Hetty_Fauxvert; freespirited
However, one thing that can happen is that stress on the mother can cause changes in her hormones that can have an influence on the unborn child. In centuries past, the comfortable classes sometimes went out of their way to protect pregnant women (confinement). We would do well the give our pregnant women more support and reduce their stress levels. We might find they give birth to fewer feminized boys, and masculinized girls as a result.

Fetal alcohol syndrome? Smoking pot? LSD? etc., etc....

Marijuana is the perfect chemical warfare agent for the feminization of men.

Recreational drug use has been chemical warfare waged against the young people of this country since the 1960s. The sex perverts, like the druggies, can only perpetuate an ever increasing market for their filth by molesting the minds and bodies of the young ones, including expectant teenage mothers...

36 posted on 12/11/2006 6:40:36 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: unspun

That whole "weak/absent father" rigamarole.

By that logic, the ghettos and projects should be teeming with queens.

It just makes more sense to me that the poor relationship between fathers and homosexual-to-be sons is an effect, not a cause.


37 posted on 12/11/2006 7:36:32 PM PST by JoshGray
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
me: But gay men do father children;...

you: They would have to be heterosexual to do that...

Is former New Jersey governor Jim Greevy a heterosexual?

38 posted on 12/11/2006 8:20:56 PM PST by freespirited (John McCain: In your heart, you know he's wrong.)
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To: VeritatisSplendor

As I pointed out in my Comment # 15, stress in pregnancy can cause hormonal changes that can affect a developing baby toward a more feminine or masculine tendency.


39 posted on 12/11/2006 9:56:27 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: freespirited
Is former New Jersey governor Jim Greevy a heterosexual?

He must have been one to father a child... there is only one way that happens...

If I have to explain the "birds and bees" to a grown man, the conversation is fruitless anyway.

40 posted on 12/12/2006 2:48:49 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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