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Biden tests presidential waters in S.C. [Claims Delaware wanted to join Confederacy!]
(Wilmington, NC) Star-News (StarNewsOnline.com) ^ | November 29, 2006 | Jim Davenport, Associated Press

Posted on 12/09/2006 11:41:02 AM PST by Gondring

Biden tests presidential waters in S.C.
Touts bipartisanship, bond with state's former leading Democrats

Columbia, S.C. | U.S. Sen. Joe Biden heads into his quest for votes in a 2008 presidential primary in South Carolina with a well-exercised sense of what to say and what to leave unsaid to Republicans and Democrats alike.

The Delaware Democrat knows enough to avoid laughing too hard at a Clemson University joke - particularly a few days after the Upstate school lost a nail-biter to its in-state rival, the University of South Carolina.

Biden told a crowd of more than 230 at a Columbia Rotary Club meeting on Monday he learned long ago not to get involved in that rivalry. "You all are crazy," he said.

Biden said he learned to tread carefully from good teachers - former Democratic U.S. Sen. Ernest "Fritz" Hollings and the late Republican U.S. Sen. Strom Thurmond.

He's not shy about talking about South Carolina's Confederate history either.

After a club member noted an upcoming event at the state Department of Archives and History included a chance to see the state's original copy of the Articles of Secession, Biden asked: "Where else could I go to a Rotary Club where (for a) Christmas Party the highlight is looking at the Articles?"

Biden noted Delaware was a border state and "a slave state that fought beside the North. That's only because we couldn't figure out how to get to the South - there were a couple of other states in the way."

The crowd roared with laughter.

Well received

Biden has deep and heartfelt ties to Hollings and Thurmond, two of South Carolina's political icons. Biden credits Hollings with helping to persuade him to stay in the Senate after his wife and daughter died in an accident after his first election in 1972. And Biden was close enough to Thurmond that, just before he died in 2003, the 100-year-old legislator asked that Biden deliver his eulogy.

Biden has been putting those Hollings connections to good use as he shores up a 2008 presidential run.

In May, Hollings introduced Biden at the Galivants Ferry Stump, a big Democratic Party gathering.

On Monday, longtime Hollings aide Trip King brought him in front of the mostly Republican Rotary audience. And Kevin Mertens, the volunteer leading his South Carolina campaign efforts for much of the past two years, also is a former Hollings aide who previously helped former U.S. Sen. John Edwards' 2004 campaign.

In his speech in Columbia, Biden's emphasized bipartisanship and the war in Iraq, keeping an attentive crowd in their seats for a half-hour. Only a handful left as he moved into the crowd with a booming voice for an animated half-hour question-and-answer session.

Club member Bruce Rippeteau, who says he's on Genghis Khan wing of the Republican Party, said Biden kept the crowd's attention by being nonpolitical. And his Iraq message resounded because "what we've been doing hasn't worked," he said.

Biden told the crowd he needs the GOP and its supporters to put Nov. 7 behind them. "American needs - I need - the Republican Party to get back up," he said. "Not a single change in direction can be done without a bipartisan consensus in this country."

Biden knew it was a Republican audience, but said he wasn't surprised people listened.

"I don't find a lot of difference between Republicans and Democrats right now," Biden said.

People know the nation is "in a pretty deep hole domestically" and want to know what lawmakers and politicians are going to do about it, Biden said.

But South Carolina holds a partisan primary, notes Don Fowler, former Democratic National Committee co-chairman. "If you're running in a Democratic primary, why give your best shot to Republicans," Fowler said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Delaware; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: biden; dumbestsenatorever; electionpresident; plariarist; slavery
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I've searched and don't see this posted. Am I missing it?!

I love this line:

...with a well-exercised sense of what to say and what to leave unsaid...
?!? He might have exercised it, but he sure ain't flexing it here! Wistful that Delaware wasn't able to join its brethren slave states?!?
1 posted on 12/09/2006 11:41:07 AM PST by Gondring
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To: jan in Colorado; Just A Nobody; Gabz

ping


2 posted on 12/09/2006 11:41:41 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Shameless jerk.


3 posted on 12/09/2006 11:44:17 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Gondring

"Biden tests presidential waters "

I'm thinking there's a lot of jokes in that line .......


4 posted on 12/09/2006 11:46:03 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: Gondring
Wait a minute, I thought that Joe Biden was a cartoon character that was on Meet the Press twice a month? Now you tell us he`s real? WOW
5 posted on 12/09/2006 11:46:36 AM PST by bybybill (`IF TH E RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: Gondring
It's good a Democrat remembers the party's core principles of the 4 S's.

1,2,3,4 He ain't got no alibi, he's a bigot yeah yeah he's a bigot.
6 posted on 12/09/2006 11:46:37 AM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: spikeytx86

U. G. L. Y.


7 posted on 12/09/2006 11:49:08 AM PST by evad
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To: nuconvert

Wait til it comes out that his middle name is Arkbar.


8 posted on 12/09/2006 11:49:53 AM PST by Ieatfrijoles
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To: Gondring

Just what we need.............a President with an obvious fake smile. This guy smiles as he cuts you down.


9 posted on 12/09/2006 11:50:20 AM PST by Ron2
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To: Gondring
a slave state that fought beside the North. That's only because we couldn't figure out how to get to the South

Man he's dumb. That statement alone would disqualify him as a Presidential candidate...if he were a pubbie.

10 posted on 12/09/2006 11:53:37 AM PST by socal_parrot (palomino!!!)
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To: Gondring
Biden tests presidential waters in S.C.

S.C. has sharks, doesn't it.

Well, I hope it does.

11 posted on 12/09/2006 11:54:07 AM PST by Barnacle (Where's the wall?.... Where's the wall??)
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To: Gondring

This guy is an absolute bonehead. This past election his vacuous son has visited upon us as AG in the State of Delaware!


12 posted on 12/09/2006 11:54:48 AM PST by outofstyle
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To: evad
Thanks for the correction. I am not up on my cheer's!
13 posted on 12/09/2006 11:56:05 AM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: Gondring
Only thing Biden said of any worth was that he wanted to punch Bill Clinton in the nose.

Now, that was a pithy comment.

14 posted on 12/09/2006 11:57:00 AM PST by what's up
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To: socal_parrot
a slave state that fought beside the North. That's only because we couldn't figure out how to get to the South

He would call Delaware "a Muslim state that couldn't figure out how to get to the Mideast", if he thought he could get some millage from it.

15 posted on 12/09/2006 11:58:30 AM PST by Barnacle (Where's the wall?.... Where's the wall??)
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To: spikeytx86
heh...indelibly imprinted in my frontal lobes from years of high school sports games ;-)
16 posted on 12/09/2006 11:59:29 AM PST by evad
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To: socal_parrot; All
See also: Explain To Me Why This Isn’t A Scandal
17 posted on 12/09/2006 12:00:02 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: nuconvert; All
I wonder if he is going to sing them some of the Welsh mining songs taught to him by his father,((Dad=Neil Kinnock))after a tough day in the mines near Cardiff.
Is that in Delaware???
18 posted on 12/09/2006 12:00:06 PM PST by Gideon Reader ("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Lagavulin, early in the day.)
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To: Gideon Reader
Cardiff, Delaware:

Latitude: 39° 48' 48"N
Longitude: 75° 32' 17"W

19 posted on 12/09/2006 12:05:42 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gideon Reader

Another clown wants to join the circus.


20 posted on 12/09/2006 12:07:47 PM PST by jocko12
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