Posted on 12/04/2006 3:18:35 PM PST by sockmonkey
Wife and two daughters of senior editor James Kim found in Oregon; search is still on for James Kim, who left the car on foot two days ago.
The wife and daughters of missing CNET senior editor James Kim have been found alive and airlifted to a local hospital, authorities announced at a press conference in Merlin, Ore., Monday afternoon.
James Kim left the car on snowshoes two days ago to seek help and has not been found, the official said. The search for him continues.
According to the official speaking at the news conference, the conditions of Kati, Penelope and Sabine are not yet known. More details are expected at a press conference at 5 p.m. PST, which CNET will stream live.
Kati Kim reportedly flagged down a helicopter rented by families of the missing persons.
After searches in Oregon's Curry and Douglas counties, new information on missing CNET senior editor James Kim and his family narrowed the search back to the Bear Camp area in Josephine County, according to reports Monday.
A cell phone tower received a signal from one of the family's cell phones at about 1:30 a.m. on Sunday near Glendale, but officials say the signal is only an indicator the family could have been within 26 miles of Glendale at that time, according to a report in The Oregonian.
What does your aviation experience have to do with the survival of the Kims. They were driving not flying.<<<<<<
The preparation for the unexpected is paramount in both driving and flying, though perhaps most pilots have had it instilled in a different manner than drivers. And people driving or flying can learn from each other when it comes to being careful and prepared.
This family getting lost will be just another near or actual tragedy, depending on what happens with Mr. Kim, if people don't stop and think about what can happen. The Kims were intelligent, savvy people who still ended up in a mess, so it could happen to many of us.
If you are offended or bothered by some personal stories, then you have my sincere apology. I suppose a boater could have posted the same type of thing, and perhaps people would not have seen it as anything but somebody sharing their relief at having survived a perilous situation. A true thread jack would be a different story, such as comparing awful airports or bad runways. Good grief...
Thank God the wife and kids are ok; prayers for James. What a brave man. Please, Lord, be with him and keep him safe. In Jesus' name, Amen.
I have heard campers say that large plastic trash bags are some of the most useful items you can carry, and they don't take much room. More prayers for the dad.
Ping for good news!
Can you tell us about 'The Man Who Rode The Thunder'?
That is a great idea; one that I might take you up on for my solo off-road motorcycle adventures. But I can't really picture non-aviation people purchasing one for a routine family car vacation (or one they expect will be routine). But yes, aircraft radios on the Portland/Seattle to California corridor would have lit up had they heard a Mayday.
Of course, there are exceptions: certain heavily-traveled routes to well-known destinations in season. But this wasn't one of them.
Great ideas.
Besides, almost all hanger flying stories have their roots in poor preflight planning. I always felt that a good reason not to be the star of the hanger flying sessions.
So much for my trying to impress...
Okay, fair enough. I think there's a difference between gratuitous hangar flying and subject-related chatter undertaken while we debrief this awful incident. We all relate to this family's situation from our perspective, and I'm surprised you found it so irritating that we expressed same. People naturally want to share their own near-misses, be it skidding into a snow bank or going on a boat trip and ending up adrift in the fog.
It all seems to come back to preparation and/or being caught off guard, which is exactly what we were talking about. If you considered it a thread hijacking by some inferior pilots you assume are trying to impress people, you are simply wrong.
Wonderful news, it was up to the family to find them jeers to the police.
Ever tried to siphon gas out of a modern car's tank? Impossible to do it due to rollover check valve in the filler neck.
Best thing to do is, either open up the shredder valve (push the center with the house key if you will) at the fuel rail if in plain view, or cut the rubber fuel line to the fuel rail and turn on the ignition.
Fuel will come out for the next 5-7 seconds and than will shut off (Automatic Shutdown Relay will kill the fuel pump, if the engine is not running); never the less one can repeat the process allover again until a significant amount of gasoline is obtained.
Keep in mind, this process is possible "only" if the car's battery is still charged!
Battery dead?...poke a hole in the gas tank with something sharp, most fuel tanks now a days are made of plastic!
I noted several companies advertising some sort of power backup for cell phones. I haven't had a chance to look into them to see if they would be worth carrying, does anyone have experience with them?
Schraeder valve
Either with or without the "e"!
All new phones have two locater chips one is for 911 the other is a location sharing chip {optional on or off} that lets the cell company know a little bit closer where you actually are.
Maybe a cell phone tech if one is in here could answer this. IF he has a phone on him turned on is there any way to spoof it into a handshake or ping to what it would see as a home tower? If they have his identifier it seems they could try and ring his phone or pick up his phones search for signal.
I know they can triangulate on the 911 chip if in a digital area. I heard a rescue one night where the dispatcher told the man we know where you are {literally}, told him to sip put, and the rescue team walked up to him. A smaller area. This guy had been hiking and took an afternoon nap and woke up after dark.
Good rule if you travel rural areas use a hand held cell with an extendable antenna. The fixed antenna phones work poorly in rural areas one with a telescoping antenna fair quite a bit better. If you travel a lot get a car cell phone with a mounted antenna. I would use a magnet mount on the roof of the vehicle if possible. It literally in some cases can add 10's of miles to your talk range both send and receive. The transmitting wattage is higher on a car phone or transportable and a mounted antenna recieves much better.
We went on Bear Camp road in August once. Had 4WD too. Scarey dangerous road even in summer. Takes quite a while to go over the mountain and we didn't see one other vehicle.
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